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Alex Wagner OK With Racial Fear Tactics—If That's What It Takes for Dems to Win
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 10/30/2014 2:33:34 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Could this be the most cynical statement of the campaign season? The woman whose recent wedding President Obama attended is okay with stoking the racial fears of black Americans—if that's what it takes to drive them to the polls and secure Dem victories. Alex Wagner devoted a segment of her MSNBC show today to the naked appeals to the racial fears of black Americans that Democrats are making in campaign ads. Wagner discussed Dem ads that seek to stoke black fear toward Republicans by invoking Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown.

You might think Wagner would have condemned these ugly tactics, explicitly aimed at driving Americans apart based on their race. Think again. To the contrary, Wagner concluded the segment by saying that it shouldn't have to be the kind of threats contained in these ads that get people to vote, "but if it does, so much stronger the party is for it."

View the video here.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alexwagner; campaignads; democrats; racialfears

1 posted on 10/30/2014 2:33:34 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Disgusting: MSNBC host Alex Wagner OK with stoking black racial fears—if that’s what it takes for Dems to win. Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 10/30/2014 2:34:42 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Malcolm 3.8X


3 posted on 10/30/2014 2:35:29 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
She's not actually Black.

Her mother was Burmese. Her father was German-Irish-American.

Her father was a Clinton crony. Her husband works for Obama.

I wonder how many people assume she's African-American,

4 posted on 10/30/2014 2:42:09 PM PDT by x
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To: x
She's not actually Black.
Her mother was Burmese. Her father was German-Irish-American. Her father was a Clinton crony. Her husband works for Obama.
I wonder how many people assume she's African-American,

It doesn't matter, does it? She plays the race card because she was TOLD to do so...if she wanted to stay on the air.

5 posted on 10/30/2014 2:44:52 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This when loyalty to party outweighs ethics and integrity.

Next, killing a few opponents is OK if it helps the party.


6 posted on 10/30/2014 2:45:05 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The dems have proven it works for generations. That’s all they got.


7 posted on 10/30/2014 2:56:09 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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The RAT party, the party of the KKK and Segregation somehow pulled the wool over the eyes of the black community and made them vote RAT..all Rats can do is give blacks food stamps and welfare checks and oh yeah, Obama phones..throw them enough cheese and they own them for life..like giving crack to a crack addict, they will always come back for more


8 posted on 10/30/2014 2:58:21 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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9 posted on 10/30/2014 2:59:34 PM PDT by JPG (tagline is taking a break until after the election)
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Arkansas residents meanwhile, received a mailer showing a man in a hands-up, don't shoot position made infamous in the wake of Michael Brown's killing. The mailer reads: "If we want to end senseless killings like Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, we need to vote.

Wow! All we have to do is vote and that will end senseless interracial killings!

What do we need to do to end the lies? How about trying some impartial truth -- from the federal government itself -- to expose all types of interracial crimes not just the ones alleged in the posted article.

I am not trying to make this a racial thing..
  1. Obama-Holder demagogues have already done that
  2. this is the part backed by federal government facts
  3. .. some may even prove Obama-Holder demagogues right;
  4. -- that's fine with me
  5. it's truth that matters most.


The FBI and other sources of homicide by law enforcement figures below include the majority of all police departments.

The point of this reply is to point out that whites are the most likely to die while being arrested.

The Obama-Holder U.S. Dept. Just Us and the race-grievance industry will of course exploit all shootings to the max vis-a-vis race more than any concern for the poor victim.

That is why the facts are being ignored. The ARD data show that whites are more likely to die while being arrested and IMO there is no doubt that some of those deaths were the intention of the police.

But the main point is I bet that policemen don't care about race compared to protecting themselves from being killed or maimed.

And what about Ms Carey the unarmed, young black woman chased, surrounded and gunned down by federal agents in D.C.? Where's the Obama-Holder U.S. Dept. Just Us and the race-grievance industry caring about her and her baby?

U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics; Arrest-Related Deaths, 2003-2009 - Statistical Tables

"From 2003 through 2009, a total of 4,813 deaths were reported to the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ (BJS) Arrest-Related Deaths (ARD) program."

Of these, about 6 in 10 deaths (2,931) were classified as homicide by law enforcement personnel, and 4 in 10 (1,882) were attributed to other manners of death.

Table 1 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death, 2003-2009

Manner of death 2003-2009 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
All manners 4,813 627 673 689 721 745 629 729
Homicide —by law enforcement 2,931 376 375 377 447 455 404 497
by other persons 27 3 4 4 2 7 3 4
Suicide 541 60 84 82 67 78 76 94
Intoxication 525 83 83 90 76 89 54 50
Accidental injury 272 53 41 47 39 35 28 29
Natural causes 244 26 46 32 34 42 33 31
Unknown 273 26 40 57 56 39 31 24
Note: Due to variation in reporting, caution should be used in comparing counts from year to year. See Methodology for information on missing data by state for each year. Counts may differ from previous publication due to additional information.

Table 5 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death and demographic characteristics, 2003-2009

Demographic
characteristics
All manners Homicide Suicide Intoxication Accident Natural causes Unknown
Total 4,813 2,958 541 525 272 244 273
Sex
Male 4,594 2,851 517 490 259 218 259
Female 218 107 24 35 13 26 13
Unknown 1 0 0 0 0 0 1
Race/Hispanic origin
White, non-Hispanic 2,026 1,233 327 178 95 110 83
Black, non-Hispanic 1,529 937 80 217 111 85 99
Hispanic 949 599 110 109 55 29 47
Other* 150 107 12 17 4 4 6
Unknown 159 82 12 4 7 16 38
Age
17 or younger 127 99 6 5 13 0 4
18-24 909 685 80 53 54 10 27
25-34 1,391 893 140 177 65 41 75
35-44 1,238 658 159 190 78 66 87
45-54 752 390 105 84 45 75 53
55 or older 317 188 44 11 12 52 10
Unknown 79 45 7 5 5 0 17

*Includes American Indians, Alaska Natives, Asians, Native Hawaiians, other Pacific Islanders, and persons of two or more races.

To me this shows that it is not a racial thing. It happens to all races. These figures however do not show those thought "murdered" by police. I have not yet located data for recent years. Why can't I find data for recent years? I do not know.. maybe the Dept of Just Us and Race-Grievance Industry don't want it known that whites are the most likely to die being arrested.

More on interracial homicides. TABLE 14 Percent of justifiable able homicides

Race of felon
Race of citizen
who killed felon
Race of officer
who killed felon
Total White Black Other* Total White Black Other*
Total 100% 55% 42% 3% 100% 86% 13% 1%
White 41% 37% 3% 1% 60% 56% 3% 1%
Black 57 17 39 2 38 27 11 --
Other 2 1 -- 1 3 2 -- --

Note: Detail may not sum to total due to rounding. -- Less than 0.5%.

*Other race includes American Indians, Alaska Natives, Asians, Hawaiians, and other Pacifi c Islanders

U.S. Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics; Homicide Trends in the United States, 1980-2008. Annual Rates for 2009 and 2010

(on Page 33)

RE: The ARD program data that I posted above (first table), it is true that blacks represent about 12% of the national population and that suggests that the figures "prove" discrimination; to wit, there are way too many blacks compared to white majority.

Good point. The same thing ought to apply to the following homicide and other crime data it seems to me.

Expanded Homicide Data
Table 6 data for multiple years.

FBI Homicides Statistics

Year of
Stats
Race of
Victims

Total
White
Offenders
Black
Offenders
Unknown
& other
2012
White
3,128
2,614
431
83
Black
2,648
193
2,412
43
2011
White
3,172
2,630
448
94
Black
2,695
193
2,447
55
2010
White
3,327
2,777
447
103
Black
2,720
218
2,459
43
2009
White
3,518
2,963
454
101
Black
2,867
209
2,604
54
2008
White
3,643
3,036
504
103
Black
3,024
230
2,722
72
2007
White
3,587
2,918
566
103
Black
3,221
245
2,905
71
2006
White
3,709
3,026
573
110
Black
3,303
208
3,034
61
2005
White
3,785
3,150
516
119
Black
3,289
230
2,984
75
2004
White
3,727
3,123
522
85
Black
3,067
228
2,784
55
1995
White
4,954
4,124
699
131
Black
4,764
281
4,422
61

I did not find data for the years 1996 through 2003

www.fbi.gov About Us CJIS UCR Crime in the U.S. Here's the links to most of the FBI tables I referenced above.

Here's 2012

Here's 2011

Here's 2010

Here's 2009

Here's 2008

Here's 2007

Here's 2006

Here's 2005

It is long past the time when facts should be made public to expose the lies and misrepresentations of the Obama-Holder demagogues and the race-grievance industry.

There is a gold mine of facts out there that will expose the lies and misrepresentations of the Obama-Holder demagogues and the race-grievance industry.

That's the way to an honest discussion of race.

Here's a couple of tables from the FBI new NIBRS (National Incident-Based Reporting System) that also show truth.

Please note that the last four columns of the Offender Table are my additions.. THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE FBI TABLES. I just want to make that clear.

To me the dearth of white offenders vis-a-vis white victims is significant.

Compare that to the dearth of black victims vis-a-vis the surplus of black offenders. Who are the victims of that surplus?

My guess is that there is a connection between the surplus of black offenders and the surplus of white victims (compared to white offenders).

The links immediately following are U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics Criminal Victimization in the United States, [YYYY] Statistical Tables and their Table 42: "Percent distribution of single-offender victimizations, by type of crime, race of victim, and perceived race of offender" show an inordinate amount of black-on-white crime in some crime categories. I have to emphasis that Statistical Tables' data are based upon surveys, they are not FBI/police crime figures. However since 2009 Table 42 data are no longer made public that I can find. If those data are being hidden then the Obama-Holder federal government is not very impartial.

1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008

Now back to the FBI data and tables

www.fbi.gov, Victims' Race
by Offense Category, 2012

Offense Category "Total Victims1" White Black "American Indian or
Alaskan Native"
"Asian/Pacific
Islander"
"Unknown Race"
Total 4,332,695 3,156,006 901,159 22,326 50,615 202,589
Crimes Against Persons 1,327,863 893,984 374,220 11,133 10,072 38,454
Assault Offenses 1,228,498 820,215 354,624 10,126 9,274 34,259
Homicide Offenses 3,943 1,885 1,940 22 34 62
Kidnapping/Abduction 15,797 10,946 4,059 162 181 449
Sex Offenses, Forcible 73,132 55,876 12,569 743 546 3,398
Sex Offenses, Nonforcible 6,493 5,062 1,028 80 37 286
Crimes Against Property 3,004,832 2,262,022 526,939 11,193 40,543 164,135
Arson 12,300 7,816 2,706 48 109 1,621
Bribery 250 197 35 3 2 13
Burglary/Breaking & Entering 538,561 402,371 106,177 1,776 7,124 21,113
Counterfeiting/Forgery 39,203 30,973 4,335 166 509 3,220
Destruction/Damage/Vandalism 660,184 485,374 129,772 2,791 8,657 33,590
Embezzlement 3,654 3,053 364 11 38 188
Extortion/Blackmail 1,207 902 221 3 28 53
Fraud Offenses 216,429 163,449 34,812 530 3,010 14,628
Larceny/Theft Offenses 1,262,354 992,072 177,229 4,752 16,507 71,794
Motor Vehicle Theft 159,295 106,661 39,588 621 2,057 10,368
Robbery 81,554 47,647 29,138 396 2,155 2,218
Stolen Property Offenses 29,841 21,507 2,562 96 347 5,329
1 This table includes only individual (person) victims and does not include business, financial institution, government, religious organization, or other victims. Victims are counted once for each offense type to which they are connected.

www.fbi.gov, Offenders' Race
by Offense Category, 2012

Offense Category "Total Victims1" White Black "American
Indian or
Alaskan
Native"
"Asian/
Pacific
Islander"
"Unknown
Race"
Number of
white victims
vs.
number of
white offenders
Number of
black victims
vs.
number of
black offenders
Total 4,556,183 2,574,105 1,261,337 39,967 29,895 650,879
Crimes Against Persons 1,297,153 768,147 452,877 12,905 9,718 53,506 125,837 -78,657 1.16 0.83
Assault Offenses 1,199,433 706,529 425,744 11,963 8,899 46,298 113,686 -71,120 1.16 0.83
Homicide Offenses 4,465 1,798 2,232 29 27 379 87 -292 1.05 0.87
Kidnapping/Abduction 16,328 9,432 5,890 178 150 678 1,514 -1,831 1.16 0.69
Sex Offenses, Forcible 70,441 45,694 17,745 650 593 5,759 10,182 -5,176 1.22 0.71
Sex Offenses, Nonforcible 6,486 4,694 1,266 85 49 392 368 -238 1.08 0.81
Crimes Against Property 2,361,079 1,180,180 572,430 18,083 13,504 576,882 1,081,842 -45,491 1.92 0.92
Arson 10,827 5,796 2,124 71 45 2,791 2,020 582 1.35 1.27
Bribery 412 298 94 5 4 11 -101 -59 0.66 0.37
Burglary/Breaking & Entering 316,477 135,148 67,924 1,615 1,188 110,602 267,223 38,253 2.98 1.56
Counterfeiting/Forgery 68,197 41,299 16,845 317 488 9,248 -10,326 -12,510 0.75 0.26
Destruction/Damage/Vandalism 434,796 210,310 97,822 3,270 2,313 121,081 275,064 31,950 2.31 1.33
Embezzlement 18,520 12,548 4,881 56 136 899 -9,495 -4,517 0.24 0.07
Extortion/Blackmail 1,180 657 316 2 22 183 245 -95 1.37 0.70
Fraud Offenses 173,359 92,094 37,757 903 1,178 41,427 71,355 -2,945 1.77 0.92
Larceny/Theft Offenses 1,100,592 587,178 244,545 10,043 6,837 251,989 404,894 -67,316 1.69 0.72
Motor Vehicle Theft 85,909 37,404 18,213 858 450 28,984 69,257 21,375 2.85 2.17
Robbery 105,005 26,173 70,039 483 468 7,842 21,474 -40,901 1.82 0.42
Stolen Property Offenses 45,805 31,275 11,870 460 375 1,825 -9,768 -9,308 0.69 0.22
Crimes Against Society 897,951 625,778 236,030 8,979 6,673 20,491 -625,778 -236,030
Drug/Narcotic Offenses 790,828 566,888 194,224 8,351 5,453 15,912 -566,888 -194,224
Gambling Offenses 2,320 873 1,230 11 113 93 -873 -1,230
Pornography/Obscene Material 5,962 4,691 659 24 36 552 -4,691 -659
Prostitution Offenses 12,182 7,248 4,199 52 373 310 -7,248 -4,199
Weapon Law Violations 86,659 46,078 35,718 541 698 3,624 -46,078 -35,718
1Does not include 1,741,162 incidents with Unknown Offenders. Offenders are counted once for each offense type to which they are connected.
10 posted on 10/30/2014 3:16:29 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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