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Northern European nations pledge military cooperation against Russia
dw.de ^ | November 13, 2014

Posted on 11/13/2014 8:50:28 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

As military tensions with Russia continue to run high, northern European nations pledged to boost cooperation against Moscow. Defense ministers from 8 countries met in Oslo for talks. Norwegen Russland Kampfflugzeug Su-34

Eight northern European nations have pledged closer cooperation in an effort to counter a recent increase in Russian military activity in the region.

The defense ministers from the Baltic and Nordic states, as well as Britain are holding military talks in the Norwegian capital of Oslo Thursday and Friday. They agreed to improve intelligence sharing and broaden cross-border air force training in the Nordic territories.

The meeting comes amid fresh NATO accusations of Russia sending troops into embattled eastern Ukraine, a spike in provocative Russian military maneuvers in Europe, and Moscow announcing plans to send bombers patrolling as far as the gulf of Mexico.

Norwegian defense minister Inger Eriksen said all the ministers present at the conference were in agreement that "Russia's actions (in Ukraine) are totally unacceptable and violate fundamental principles of international law."

British defense secretary Michael Fallon accused Russia of "regularly flouting the rules of international aviation" and sending jets on patrols as far west as Portugal and Ireland.

"NATO has recorded over 100 intercepts so far this year, three times as many as in 2013 and the year is not yet finished," Fallon said at a news conference. "We will not allow Russia to continue to invade our air space."

According to Eriksen, air force training cooperation between Finland, Sweden, and Norway will be extended to include Denmark in order to cover the entirety of Nordic airspace. NATO will also help the Baltic nations of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania improve their militaries.

Warning time 'reduced to virtually zero'

After Russia annexed Crimea in March, Baltic countries feel particularly threatened by a resurgent Russia. "Military aggression against Ukraine was foreseen by very few policymakers. The warning time has been reduced to virtually zero," Estonian defense minister Sven Mikser said.

Russian President Vladimir Putin recently boasted that Russian troops could invade eastern European capitals within two days if ordered.

"If I wanted, Russian troops could not only be in Kyiv in two days, but in Riga, Vilnius, Tallinn, Warsaw or Bucharest, too," Putin reportedly told Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in September.

On Monday, the London-based European Leadership network issued a report finding a sharp rise in NATO-Russian military encounters since the Crimea annexation, and former Soviet leader Mikhael Gorbachev warned recently in Berlin of a new Cold War.

"We are in a new stage of our relationship with Russia, that is very clear," Fallon said. "Russia has stepped outside the framework of international law."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: denmark; finland; norway; sweden

1 posted on 11/13/2014 8:50:28 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: GeronL; Lazamataz

Pingsky


2 posted on 11/13/2014 8:55:08 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Western Europe had better rediscover its inner manhood, because the Russians never lost theirs.


3 posted on 11/13/2014 9:10:33 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Tailgunner Joe

RESET_BUTTON_PING!


4 posted on 11/13/2014 9:15:04 PM PST by The Duke
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To: RitchieAprile

The civilized men of the world are banding together to face the savage stupid evil of KGB Putin and his Neo-Soviet tyranny.

Each man must make his choice upon which side he stands.

With civilization and freedom, or with the evil psychotic mass murderer Putin and his reprehensible hordes of Chekist churls.


5 posted on 11/13/2014 9:27:00 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The pussified EU governments are going to use FORCE against the Russians under Putin? Who do they think they're kidding? The EU militaries are a total joke. They couldn't put up a fight if they had to because all their money has been diverted into social programs. EU militaries are nothing but meals on wheels and UN peacekeeper programs.
6 posted on 11/13/2014 9:45:27 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

NATO is vastly superior to Russia militarily.


7 posted on 11/13/2014 10:05:07 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I'll say it again, Finland should hold winter war games on the Russian border with other countries participating and call it Operation White Death. The Russians will understand the historic reference.
8 posted on 11/13/2014 10:21:03 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: ansel12
NATO used to be superior to Russia. However the Euros have hollowed out their forces to feed their welfare states. Plus, they always have depended on the Americans to do the heavy lifting. Remember the Euros were behind the take down of Libyan strongman Mommar Qaddafi so they could cut out the Libyan middle man and control the oil for themselves?

The French were the main instigators behind this policy and got into the war (along with some other NATO allies including America). Guess who handled the logistics? The Americans and not NATO. Guess who flew the lion's share of the air strikes? America and not NATO. Guess who ran out of air ordnance and had to use U.S. stock piles? France!

Tell me again how NATO will stand up against Russia with Obama as CinC? If it ever came to a Putin vs. Obama confrontation involving NATO, look for Obama to sellout to Putin and throw the victory to Russia.

9 posted on 11/14/2014 12:49:27 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: ansel12
"NATO is vastly superior to Russia militarily."

Take the U.S. out of the NATO pact and is that still true? To borrow a phrase (and make a slight twist) from Winston Churchill, NATO is more than willing to fight to the last American in a war against Russia.
10 posted on 11/14/2014 5:14:42 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden; MasterGunner01

“Despite the smaller number of U.S. troops in Europe, the military balance there is far more favorable to NATO today than it was when nearly 10 times as many American soldiers, sailors and airmen were stationed on the continent.”

“Consider the situation today. East Germany no longer exists, while Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and every one of Russia’s other erstwhile Warsaw Pact partners are now members of NATO. So are Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which in 1989 were parts of the Soviet Union itself. In 1989, the Red Army had almost a half-million troops and 27 maneuver divisions (plus enormous quantities of artillery and other units) on the territory of its three main allies. Today, it has a total of seven divisions in its entire Western Military District, all of which are based on its own territory. Indeed, the entire Russian army today boasts about 25 divisions, fewer than it had forward deployed in its Eastern European allies during the waning days of the Cold War.

Today, Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Germany alone field more divisions than Russia has in its Western Military District. These countries are backstopped by the rest of NATO, including, of course, the United States.”


11 posted on 11/14/2014 5:57:43 AM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden; MasterGunner01
No one asked, but to follow up on that post, here is a reminder that this Russia is not what people seem to think it is, with it's somewhat backwards and small Army that is thought to be as small as 250,000 men, a weak Navy and Air force, they do not have the forces, the depth, the logistics, or the geography to launch a major war against NATO, and they are threatened internally and from the East, they cannot afford to get into a major conflict elsewhere, they cannot meet NATO head to head, there forces would be quickly destroyed and Russia laid bare to internal and border hostiles with no money to rebuild their largely paper strength.

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12 posted on 11/14/2014 10:59:03 AM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: ansel12
The real question is whether the Euros would defend themselves without American backing? Or, would they want American backing with the current joke of a CinC in place that we have? Who in their right mind is inspired by Obozo’s dynamic leadership?
13 posted on 11/14/2014 4:17:41 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

The Europeans could defeat Russia on their own, but why would they?

Do you think that Obama is going to withdraw our troops and our NATO membership in the next 2 years? Instead he has moved troops forward and we have been doing military exercises in Ukraine itself, and of course Poland.

Our NATO alliance goes beyond Obama and especially in these last 2 years of his time.

Where does this idea that Russia and it’s 140 million people are a match for the combined forces of the West come from?


14 posted on 11/14/2014 4:23:48 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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To: ansel12
You did not answer my question. Without the will, I don't see the major Euro NATO players going aggressive on Putin's Russia. I don't see Barry doing it either because he wants to “lead from the rear” as most cowards do. If the Russian Bear moved on the Ukraine, I don't think the U.S. or Euros would fight (even though they've said they would). I would not count on Barack Obozo to lead the charge either. He talks big and then tries to weasel out. Both Obozo and Putin are communists, however Putin is ex-KGB and Obozo is a community organizer. Who'd you want on your side in a fight -- Ex-KGB or a community organizer?
15 posted on 11/14/2014 10:04:21 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

To get it out of the way first, I would want the American war machine and the NATO war machine on my side over Russia’s inadequate forces that still depend largely on 12 month draftees with little training, little Air Force, and an almost nonexistent Navy.

The question is not about invading Russia, but is the same question it always is, will Russia force NATO/America to defend itself.

You have posted a lot of nonsense about stuff that you need to look into more.


16 posted on 11/14/2014 10:12:54 PM PST by ansel12 (The churlish behavior of Obama over the next two years is going to be spellbinding.)
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