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1 posted on 11/14/2014 2:13:28 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

So, exactly WHAT problem does the left say that Obamacare solved?

And at what cost?

And could that problem have been solved without all this misery?

And could it possibly be that the misery was the goal all along?


2 posted on 11/14/2014 2:14:49 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: tobyhill

where my free stuff?


3 posted on 11/14/2014 2:16:37 PM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: tobyhill

COPAY numbers aren’t even mentioned.


4 posted on 11/14/2014 2:17:41 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: tobyhill

Surely, any premium increase will be more than offset by the $2500 I’ll be saving.


6 posted on 11/14/2014 2:18:37 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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Obamacare is and always has been wrong - a deception built on lies. And trying to do the wrong thing the right way is an exercise in futility.

This is nothing new. The whole history of Marxism and Fabian Socialism and “Progressivism” is about implementation based on lies and deception. What you initially see and hear is NOT what you get. Obama managed to get elected twice because there were enough gullible people who continued to believe his lies and deception. Lies and deception are the only ways Socialism is implemented. Lies and deception are the only ways Socialists are brought into power.

The unconstitutional $4,000,000,000,000 federal government is wrong. Unconstitutional Obamacare is wrong just as the unconstitutional Roe v. Wade decision and unconstitutional federally forced validation of abortion are wrong. All based on lies and deception bringing forth death, misery and poverty.

The study of “How to Properly Implement Obamacare” or some other socialized healthcare replacement program called by some other lying name, is a study on how to do the wrong thing the right way. But there will NEVER be a right way to do the wrong thing. There ain’t no such animal.


7 posted on 11/14/2014 2:18:40 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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Remember, the insurance companies were all complicit. ObamaCare would not have happened if the insurance companies had fought it. They though the would be raking in the bucks.
9 posted on 11/14/2014 2:21:03 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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“The Affordable Care Act offers subsidized private health insurance to people who don’t have access to coverage on the job.”

While raising the costs and lowering the quality for everyone else.


10 posted on 11/14/2014 2:21:23 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: tobyhill

Comments are 100% negative against 0care.


11 posted on 11/14/2014 2:24:53 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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I hope this monstrosity teaches America a lesson — there is no “something for nothing.” There is no “free” healthcare that is paid for by “the rich.” There is no magic bullet that will let them take care of a major life expense for free. Maybe Americans will grow up a little. Maybe they will realize that you have to work for what you want and need in life, and that you have to make smart choices when buying something like healthcare.


13 posted on 11/14/2014 2:26:09 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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All that have signed up are people who need subsidies, there’s no one paying any substantial premiums. Therefore, it should collapse on its own!


14 posted on 11/14/2014 2:27:35 PM PST by blondee123 (THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA HAVE SPOKEN. NOVEMBER 4, 2014!)
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If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.....................you just have to pay a little more for it.......like double.......................


15 posted on 11/14/2014 2:28:21 PM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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“Many of the 7 million consumers who got insurance under President Barack Obama’s health care law will see their premiums rise next year unless they switch to another plan, independent analysts said as the government released details Friday”

Gubermint to the 7 million

It will be offset by increased tax payer subsidies. Shhhhhhh, it's our little secret, no need to get the Middle Class whom are paying for your subsidies riled up.


17 posted on 11/14/2014 2:29:41 PM PST by DAC21
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This is how Obama sold the plan to Insurance Companies.

Force everyone to buy Health Insurance, let them pay low the first year, then the next year the Insurance Companies can raise the prices to the moon.


20 posted on 11/14/2014 2:37:50 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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21 posted on 11/14/2014 2:40:37 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Lies. Lies about lies. Lies about the lies about lies.


22 posted on 11/14/2014 2:45:26 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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Da! And Only the Willfully Blind and Deaf were Fooled. Time to Wake Up America! Do you like being a “Stupid Voter” (IE “Useful Idiot”)? That what they think of you ask obama and Johnathan Gruber... Arrogance of the Establishment Better than you mentality found typically in the Progressive Mindset...

Seek the Truth for it Shall Set You FREE!

Note: 29 of the Signing Senators (Democratics All) are now Out of Office, that is in less than 4 years!!! Humm something tells me there is a Reason for much of that...

Obamacare the Biggest Lie believed by so many willfully duped people. Wake Up America!

Repeal is the only way out, but it’s too late for a none painful cure, Damage has been done and the pain will happen. Some of us did try to spare us this lesson, but many were willfully blind and deaf, or worst not involved...

Repeal, Anything less is adding to the Mess!

Who Told you the Truth? Tea Party, Conservatives, and Libertarians who were yelling from all places that this and many more problems... were coming! Remember all those who Lied to you and did everything they could to keep the Truth Tellers down!

Obamacare Designed to Fail!

Obamacare Failure, destine to follow in the footsteps of its namesake...

Obamacare only works if you don’t!

Oh and one other point needs to be brought back up even though it was DENIED time and time again, Obamacare is a TAX not Insurance!!!!! Wake Up you Foolish People!


23 posted on 11/14/2014 2:49:32 PM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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It’s sheer folly to rely on academics to design and implement anything in the real world. That is exactly why Obama fails at everything he does.

Academics can outline a policy but it takes real world experience to make it work.

Academics are never held accountable for their theories, which explains the zero accountability this administration has for their deeds.

Failure upon failure upon failure...


24 posted on 11/14/2014 2:50:11 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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The Yahoo spinmeisters just can’t help it. The article states that this is a certainty unless those people change (to no doubt worse) health plans.

“...may mean premium hike”. Love it.

In other news:

“The sun MAY rise tomorrow”.
“Liberals MAY be thieves and liars”


29 posted on 11/14/2014 3:11:58 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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Bookmark


36 posted on 11/14/2014 3:41:29 PM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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Good thing we're all stupid or they would never have gotten it passed.

Just goes to prove that if Liberals didn't lie about what they want to do they would never get elected.

45 posted on 11/17/2014 5:34:33 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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