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New York ends cooperation with feds on immigrant deportations
AFP (Yahoo) ^ | 11/14/2014

Posted on 11/14/2014 10:30:48 PM PST by South40

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To: South40

Next on Congress to do list, no cooperation no dinero


21 posted on 11/14/2014 11:49:30 PM PST by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

low information

I refuse to talk politics with my massive NY family.

I treat them like they are community college remedial SAT failing students to my imagined doctorate in American History, the Classics, and Poli Sci with a prestigious well paid position.

I am an intellectual SNOB when I talk to them. I refuse to defend my listening to talk radio and tuning in to Fox, FR and the constitution.

who are THEy? to be arbitors of the wisdom and interpretation of events?

They know nothing about what goes on about them.

I sniff at their ignorant comments.

HUff

Eventually, they will either know they are wrong or they will never know they are wrong.

But they cannot discuss their silly ideas of what constitutes reality with me. And when they try they become angry. They are abusive to ME. That’s because they HATE truth and light. Like demons. Like Golum, they hate the arbitors of truth.

so, I don’t discuss with them. They can live in dark Ignorance if they choose.

But I refuse to capitulate that they are watching main stream media.

They are not.

In ten years NO ONE will be paying attention to NBC ABC and the rest.

Some hangers on will be supporting the nYT.

But young people do not read nor watch this stuff.

And they won’t


22 posted on 11/14/2014 11:52:29 PM PST by stanne
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To: South40

Well ok states should start advertising to illegals to go live in NY. NY won’t be upset, right?!


23 posted on 11/14/2014 11:57:18 PM PST by RginTN
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To: jackibutterfly
jackibutterfly:" Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
I know nothing of Pataki. Thanks, all."

Pataki is a RINO , before it became GOPe.
He is Dumbocrat lite , and feels like next year may be his last shot at the Presidency.
Whether it is mental-pause , or menopause remains yet to be seen .
But , he is a Centrist, and can appeal to both the Dems and Repubbies.

24 posted on 11/14/2014 11:57:58 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: South40
Federal judge strikes down Arizona immigration law [November 8th, 2014] In her ruling, [Federal District Court Justice] Bolton said the state law “imposes additional and different state penalties than federal law;"

So... when AZ infringes on the Federal Government's exclusive authority to control immigration, that is A BAD THING.

But when Bill de Blasio infringes on the Federal Government's exclusive authority to control immigration, that is A GOOD THING.

O.
K.

25 posted on 11/15/2014 12:09:55 AM PST by FredZarguna (Jean à de longues moustaches. Je répète: Jean à de longues moustaches.)
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To: South40

Lawless Sandinista Communist!


26 posted on 11/15/2014 12:11:08 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: stanne

Oh, he’s one of those clearly overeducated and well-indoctrinated types. He breathlessly went from claiming the debt is largely irrelevant to how Zero cut the deficit, and all the talking points on how he fixed the economy, et al. I dismissed it all as outright cognitive dissonance.


27 posted on 11/15/2014 12:19:49 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It is cognitive dissonance.

And like the kids said in local traffic the other day, ‘you can’t argue with stupid. Just leave’.


28 posted on 11/15/2014 12:34:10 AM PST by stanne
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To: South40

Boo hoo. The poor wittle lawbreaking families.


29 posted on 11/15/2014 12:42:42 AM PST by firebrand
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To: stanne

So after my deciding to lampoon one of the little darlings on a local forum for their silliness (you know the lefty kookburgers that call into C-Span claiming to be “lifelong Republicans” who now vote Democrat and spew all the talking points), the lefty mod, who let them openly attack me for weeks, decides to lock up the thread and blames ME for causing the problems !


30 posted on 11/15/2014 12:47:05 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

They work to protect each other.

that doesn’t make them right, and it doesn’t make you paranoid, either.

Often, I imagine how it must have been for an abolitionist living in the south. And any one living in the South during the time of slavery had an opportunity to be right. They either took that side, out of logic and sensibility, or they didn’t , out of fear, ignorance or both.

Those who did were shunned form every public post, position, writing forum, ‘religious’ institution (self proclaimed) and social circle.

Yet history likes them, and only them.

And when it came time to abolish hundred year old hang-on racism, LBJ grabbed the spotlight, even though it was republicans who abolished slavery, Lincoln, for ex, and who were at the forefront of anti racist sensibility.

Now you have a party, and ideology, which gains its power and popularity from killing babies in utero, and preventing pregnancies by separating marriage and family from the marital act.

And they’ve killed 54 million. It dwarfs Hitler

The most staunch conservative won’t boldly say that.

Yet it’s true. and it well stop. It has to because, if for no other reason, it defies natural law. As does gay marriage.

And the arbitors have taken on government as their God, thinking that if they control the culture, our mindset, passively aggressively coercing thought into accepting these unnatural, destructive concepts as good and healthy.

And they use institutions, for instance, the press, to fix our minds.

40 years after Roe V Wade, more than 50% of the pop is against it, more than when it was started.

If republicans had such a record we’d be setting them straight.

But anyway, the dems know they’re wrong. So do their promoters. They don’t know it cognitively, so...cognitive dissonance.

They know it instinctively, natural law

But some day they will fix it and take all credit.

Until then, I don’t argue with them. I have dream argumentsas I practice debate skills.


31 posted on 11/15/2014 1:12:10 AM PST by stanne
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To: South40
Quote from a person who posted an earlier message here: The schools have no choice when it comes to providing K-12 education. SCOTUS made that mandatory with Plyler vs Doe in 1982. Here in Fairfax County, Virginia we pay $104 million a year for ESOL instruction for 31,000 students.

*******

My post: That 1982 Supreme Court ruling is the reason we need Constitutional amendments like the following to try to control illegal immigration:

1. "School attendance: Only citizens, legal residents, those with special student visas can attend elementary, high school, and colleges in the United States."

2. "One parent must be a citizen before a newborn child is given automatic citizenship."

3. Felony: We must finally get very serious and declare that crossing the border illegally is a felony. It sounds mean to call it a felony, but we must do it, if we will ever have any chance of controlling our borders. Having the same illegals crossing our borders over and over is wrong,wrong, and wrong.

Illegal immigrant parents come to the United States for the wonderful benefits that their children can receive, like a quality education and great health care. Can you blame them for making the dangerous, long trip with their young children, or sending their children by themselves with the hope that the United States will automatically let them stay?

I don't understand how a child can illegally cross the southern border one day and automatically be eligible to enroll in public school the next day. That is wrong.

32 posted on 11/15/2014 2:11:28 AM PST by john mirse
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To: acapesket

Condolences. But you are presented now with some very serious mojo because of November 4. My suggestion is to sit demurely and quietly with a little bit of a Mona Lisa smile. If you’re really pressed with questions about this political thing or that, you can just say, “Well now, all that’s out the window now isn’t it? Talk about lame duck - why he should be up on the dinner table as the main course!”


33 posted on 11/15/2014 2:21:35 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: South40

A real American enemy


34 posted on 11/15/2014 2:28:17 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit = arrogant little bastard)
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To: South40

When you consider that the states get 1 dollar for every three dollars in child support they collect, I doubt NY is truly concerned about families, rather about the 1 dollar being deported.


35 posted on 11/15/2014 2:30:10 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: South40

Breaking up families is cr**. Take your kids with you...


36 posted on 11/15/2014 2:48:54 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: FredZarguna
How about this one from Thursday's Times editorial:

No Republicans have complained about his using executive authority to deport more people more quickly than all his predecessors. Using his discretion to focus on deporting violent criminals, terrorists and other threats is not lawlessness. It is his job.

Hello NY Times. In the first instance he is enforcing the law. In the second, your sly paraphrase of amnesty, he is unilaterally issuing new law that breaks the existing law. Get a clue bozos. They are hardly the same thing. More like opposites.

37 posted on 11/15/2014 2:58:25 AM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

And prosecutorial discretion has never meant inviting the world over the borders, which is in effect what Obolo is doing. I think he studied The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire in order to do it purposely.


38 posted on 11/15/2014 3:03:39 AM PST by firebrand
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To: FredZarguna
Arizona should just take the illegals to the border and tell them to start walking south.
39 posted on 11/15/2014 3:37:57 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: South40

http://observer.com/2014/11/bill-de-blasio-signs-law-limiting-cooperation-with-immigration-detainers/
commie town!


40 posted on 11/15/2014 3:56:37 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Empty head empty suit = arrogant little bastard)
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