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Earnest: Gruber comments show Americans are tired of attacks on Obamacare
The Washington Examiner ^ | November 18, 2014 | Kelly Cohen

Posted on 11/19/2014 10:36:30 AM PST by walford

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To: walford

Like the Abu Ghraib Prison ‘scandal’ for Bush 43, I think good ol’ Josh is about ready to scream if he hears ‘Gruber’ again. I keep waiting for him to turn puce and come down and beat on Ed Henry with his briefing book. Was he informed at the same time his boss was on the weekend?


41 posted on 11/19/2014 11:06:08 AM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I’m sure there’s still video out there of John Conyers saying that they can’t be expected to read all that stuff.

If I recall correctly John Dingell also got upset at a town hall meeting and declared that congress doesn’t care about the constitution and we do what we want.


42 posted on 11/19/2014 11:07:23 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: walford

The White House is tired of hearing about Jonathan Gruber’s comments.

Everyone is getting “pretty tired of relitigating” Gruber's comments — everyone except Republicans, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Tuesday.

Uhmmm NO, you dill weed, Sheep Dip.  We are not tired of relitigating ObamaCare®.  We didn’t want in the 1st place.  Second, we knew it was an outright lie.  3rd, the fact that no one read the bill and Nancy Pelosi, et all kept running around saying “You have to pass the bill to see what’s in it” demonstrated the falsehoods of the intiative, as well, the outright lie from our elected representatives this was “The Be all, to End All” meme.

It was a complete contrivance and absolutely no one benefited from this “Lie” except the vested parties, such as the Insurance Companies and Democrat Representatives.

ObamaCare® itself is a lie, a fraud, a deceit and absolute fraud foisted upon the American citizens.

Gruber’s comments that the Affordable Care Act was passed because of the “stupidity” of the American voter is not shared by “anybody at the White House,” Earnest said, adding very few Americans are paying attention to the narrative.

And?  So isn’t that an explicit affirmation of how the rest of us see it?  Yes, It Is…

“Some Republicans are fanning the flames of those old political arguments because it's politically advantageous. It's easier for them to talk about six-to-eight-year-old videos than to talk about how the open enrollment period has gone smoothly so far, or the millions who have gotten health insurance,” he said.

Well, Jack Ass.  The fact is yes, it’s politically advantageous, for the very reasons that no one likes to be taken advantage of, as this bill does. 

Further, The Fuhrer, by way of language in the bill, caused many Americans to lose insurance they were perfectly content with and now their deductibles are outrageous, as well unaffordable.

Moroever, the requirement of coverage from insurance companies and employers actually forced the patrons to drop plans that were chosen by clients/customers for a variety of reasons, the least of which was a pragmatic decision of what their household budget could afford.

This law forced higher costs on people, who could ill afford the mandates of ObamaCare®.

Gruber’s views “don't actually reflect what actually happened in the process of passing and implementing this law,” Earnest reiterated, calling Gruber just an adviser on the legislation.

Uhmmmm, Bull Shiite!  First, like Bill Ayers, a man who just happened to live in the same neighborhood, Yet, hosted events, in his home, for the sole purpose of elevating “The Black Guy” to the next position.

Gruber wasn’t “Just some advisor”.  He was, in fact, integral to creating the meme for selling ObamaCare® to Americans, who really can’t think for themselves in general or are simply “Party Apparatchiks”.

 

“It wasn't his responsibility to try to figure out how to get this bill through,” Earnest said. “It also, I think, is why it's pretty clear that the views that he's articulated do not reflect what happened.”

It wasn’t his responsibility?  ROTFLMAO!!!   He was the friggin “Pitch Man”.  One would think he might have engaged in some intellectual curiosity, to ascertain the real benefits of ObamaCare®.

 

But, Gruber gives him a pass, similar to telling us “He was a passive investor”.

 

I guess, Obama was a “Passive Investor” and, as such, a total Dolt.  He didn’t know how to, nor had an interest in, marshalling this bill for passage.

 

Yet, mysteriously it did pass…

 


43 posted on 11/19/2014 11:08:21 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Ray76

They had full power for two years (Obama’s glamor years) to pass it, but didn’t. When it did pass it took lying, cheating, rule changes, and deceit to get it through, with NO republican votes, whatsoever.

Of course they’re tired of hearing, they got caught red-handed, which has brought forth an avalanche of other facts they should be ashamed.

Josh Ernest doesn’t want to talk about because it’s TOTALLY INEXCUSABLE and he’s on the hot seat, with his boss hiding behind Valerie’s skirts.

This bunch’s M.O. Is changing the subject, dodging, lying, and blaming others.

They’re just trying to tell us to “sit down and Shutup”, but the minute we do that we give up our rights to constitutional law, and basic freedom!


44 posted on 11/19/2014 11:12:49 AM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: walford

How is it were all already tired of this story if the president himself just learned about it two days ago?


45 posted on 11/19/2014 11:14:48 AM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: walford

ll the Americans Gruber knows i.e. the MIT faculty are tired of attacks on Obamacare.


46 posted on 11/19/2014 11:17:22 AM PST by arthurus
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To: funfan

He is not actually lying, I suspect. In his world that’s all he hears. He is insular and insulated and delusional.


47 posted on 11/19/2014 11:18:40 AM PST by arthurus
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To: FrankR

I tired of hearing about my hand in the cookie jar, Mom.
Now clean up these crumbs on the floor.

48 posted on 11/19/2014 11:20:11 AM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: Southack

And 24 more of them come up for reelection in 2016. Keep talking that up and maybe we can clean house on the slime.


49 posted on 11/19/2014 11:20:29 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: cripplecreek

You have to pass it...to see what you ate.


50 posted on 11/19/2014 11:25:01 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: arthurus

“He is not actually lying, I suspect. In his world that’s all he hears. He is insular and insulated and delusional.”


I am reminded of a discussion about Saddam Hussein being surrounded by yes-men who told him what he wanted to hear. He reportedly personally shot someone who gave him bad news in front of his advisers.

Consequently, some said that he himself may not have known for sure whether Iraq had WMDs in 2003.


51 posted on 11/19/2014 11:28:53 AM PST by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford [feel free to friend me] @wralford on Twitter)
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To: walford

These Democrat WH press secretaries never get it through their heads that one lie is always better than two lies. So they end up like looking like Bart Simpson, saying “I didn’t do it! Nobody saw me do it! There’s no way you can prove anything!”


52 posted on 11/19/2014 11:43:29 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Travis McGee
These picture remind me of the hippies with guitars in the Cover Oregon ads.

I did some searching to see if Gruber had any connection to the “stupid” Oregon ads and couldn't find anything concrete.
In an Oregonian 2009 article a guy named Norm Gruber, chairman of Oregon Assn. of Hospitals & Healthcare Providers, was promoting Cover Oregon. Probably coincidental.

The ads were really “stupid”, the Gruber influence had to have been there.

53 posted on 11/19/2014 11:54:09 AM PST by Cold Heart
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54 posted on 11/19/2014 11:56:36 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: nascarnation

The Rainbow Flag is a nice touch. So this is not parody? This is real?


55 posted on 11/19/2014 12:18:58 PM PST by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford [feel free to friend me] @wralford on Twitter)
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To: sasquatch

John Conyers version of thoroughly debating Obamacare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACbwND52rrw


56 posted on 11/19/2014 12:30:15 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: Ray76

“old political arguments”

The way the left works, if they don’t like a fact that is being discussed, it’s either “old” and therefore irrelevant, or it’s “too soon” and must be studied or investigated lest we overreact, so that by the time they are done “studying” the situation it will be “old” and irrelevant.

However if it’s something they’re pushing (i.e., something that will line the pockets of liberal politicians and their cronies), it’s an emergency that has to be rammed through right now. (You know, like climate change, which takes place over millennia, but if we don’t do something about it RIGHT NOW (and make Al Gore rich in the process) we’re all going to die.)


57 posted on 11/19/2014 1:35:34 PM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Dqban22

Wow! Where do I sign up to become a “random advisor?”


58 posted on 11/19/2014 1:38:12 PM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: generally

“The way the left works, if they don’t like a fact that is being discussed, it’s either “old” and therefore irrelevant, or it’s “too soon” and must be studied or investigated lest we overreact, so that by the time they are done “studying” the situation it will be “old” and irrelevant.”


It’s a typical Leftist tactic. Look at how they handled Benghazi. When the story was fresh — and an election was near — they stalled and deflected. Then when more facts came out about how they chose politics over national security and the lives of our foreign service officers, they said it was old news.

But of course if the target is a conservative/Republican, it can never be “old news” hence they are still blaming Bush. I remember it took a couple of decades for them to finally tire of using Nixon as the Poster Child for everything evil in the world.


59 posted on 11/19/2014 2:32:55 PM PST by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford [feel free to friend me] @wralford on Twitter)
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To: walford

It’s real!


60 posted on 11/19/2014 3:53:03 PM PST by Cold Heart
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