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Obama Puts The Republic Out Of Its Misery
The Federalist ^ | November 21 2014 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 11/21/2014 4:03:18 PM PST by Jacquerie

All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress – unless the President says otherwise.

“This is how democracy works,” Barack Obama lectured the country before giving everyone the specifics of his expansive one-man executive overreach on immigration. If you enjoy straw men but are turned off by open debate and constitutional order, this speech was for you.

Obama acknowledges his overreach openly every time he argues that he intends to do the job of an obstinate Republican congress. In his speech, Obama scolded those who question whether he has the authority to change the legal status of millions of people, offering this: “I have one answer: Pass a bill.”

Pass a bill?

1) Congress has no obligation to pass a bill. Ever. Who knows? Maybe immigration ranks 50th on the GOP’s to-do list. Maybe the GOP is dysfunctional and incapable of pulling together comprehensive legislation. Maybe the Republicans are nothing more than irrational nativists. And maybe all of that threatens the GOP’s future. That’s why we have elections for presidents to ignore.

2) If Congress passed a bill, Obama would veto it, anyway. So what Obama meant to say was, “I have one answer: Pass a bill I like.” No bill will pass, especially after this cynical ploy to prod clumsy GOPers into reactions that might benefit him politically.

No, the president didn’t kill the process all by himself. Bush did it! Reagan did it! True or not, twenty years from now, the minions of some Republican Napoleon will be screaming ‘Obama did it!’ And they’ll have a sad story or a chilling warning that will justify why it’s ok. Because all legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States – unless the president says it’s super important. Then anything goes.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: articlev; constitution; obama
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To: dforest

Just wait until this Ferguson crap unfolds. Either way it will completely undermine the rule and enforcement of law.

It would seem as though the President of the United States is asking for civil unrest throughout the country.


21 posted on 11/21/2014 4:42:56 PM PST by eyedigress (e(!zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: dforest

How can a court or congress for instance, no oblige state legislative appointment of senators?


22 posted on 11/21/2014 4:43:22 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Do you look out for your job? Do you expect reps and senators not to?


23 posted on 11/21/2014 4:45:21 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Jacquerie

Order a psyche evaluation of the Marxist-Muslim.
He’s unfit.


24 posted on 11/21/2014 4:48:09 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: immadashell
I wouldn't pin any hope on our Supreme Overlords of the Court intervening.

They are probably busy taking notes on how our Emperor did this (Amnesty), in order to further their own ambitions for absolute power.

25 posted on 11/21/2014 4:48:51 PM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Pajamajan

They won’t intervene for one reason. There are mechanisms in place to deal with this.

If the democrats wish to overthrow our system of Government then a case must be presented to the SCOTUS to debate it and rule.


26 posted on 11/21/2014 4:52:14 PM PST by eyedigress (e(!zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: Jacquerie

Quit thinking the way we have always thought when dealing with these people. When are we all going to get that?

They do not care about the Constitution or “law on the books”. Keep in mind that Holder has told states that “if they do not like a law, then do not enforce it”. That is what we are up against.

They have discarded the Constitution and settled law and the law is what they declare it to be.

If we do not like that, then we need to overpower them and reinstitute or declare the law as we see it. If we cannot do that, then they win.

That is how they operate.


27 posted on 11/21/2014 4:53:12 PM PST by dforest
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To: dforest
The Framers’ constitution set interest against interest. It didn't rely solely on a virtuous electorate as our system does today.

The system worked well until it was shredded in 1913 with the 17th amendment.

28 posted on 11/21/2014 4:58:40 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Gluteus Maximus

“Article V convention can’t and won’t work for the simple reason that any amendments will be ignored by the Rats.”

If you’re not up to a fight, then get the f**k out of the way.


29 posted on 11/21/2014 5:11:26 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

He means, we need more than just that. A group of people intoxicated with playing Calvinball will need something sobering to come upon them before they will want to stop. Changing rules that are being disobeyed probably isn’t that.


30 posted on 11/21/2014 5:13:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jacquerie

It was intended as a reform move because big state government was already getting corrupt.

However, a century later, with God pretty much forgotten, the virtue isn’t to be found in either system.


31 posted on 11/21/2014 5:15:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jacquerie
All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress – unless the President says otherwise.


32 posted on 11/21/2014 5:15:22 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The late 19th century progs knew exactly what they were doing. “The states are corrupt” was smoke, just another deception. Then as now, the Left does what it takes to concentrate power in DC.
33 posted on 11/21/2014 5:21:09 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Jacquerie

It was true... not a deception.

The stewards of government were already failing because the country’s faith in God was failing.


34 posted on 11/21/2014 5:22:55 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Actually, corrupt state legislatures make for a senate that looks out for the states, which is exactly what the framers intended.

My proof is that freedom was clearly, far better secured 1789-1913 than 1913-2014.


35 posted on 11/21/2014 5:28:49 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You would do well to read Gordon S. Wood's 1969 book, The Creation of the American Republic, 1776-1787. The first state constitutions were overly democratic, and relied on virtue. This lead to problems involving property rights which were solved by the constitution.
36 posted on 11/21/2014 5:35:48 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: eyedigress
If this goes unchecked we will be the first Nation of States to centralize power and vote on a new dictator every 4 years.

Until one of them declares himself "President for Life".

37 posted on 11/21/2014 5:38:21 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jacquerie
Is it finally clear that elections alone cannot cure what ails our republic?

I've been saying for some time, that the system the Framers put in place for citizens to fully participate in governing the nation, is now FUBAR. It's become little more than a shameful trick to make the citizens believe they have a voice, when clearly they do not.

It's long past time for action. We don't have to engage in insurrection, but we'd better start doing everything short of that, if we intend to reassert our authority over our government, and stop it from becoming exactly what the Revolution freed us from.

38 posted on 11/21/2014 6:09:42 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

0bama’s dinner meeting with Dems only included 18 of them.

That’s it. 18


39 posted on 11/21/2014 6:18:48 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: sergeantdave
If you’re not up to a fight, then get the f**k out of the way.

If you're so deluded to think that we can long survive as a people while these demonic Democrats infest our land, then you need to ride your unicorn off into the happy post-Convention future where you can all play with Puff the Magic Dragon. You can change the name of your country to Honalee.

Will that work our for you, excrement?

You're a miserable coward, because like every faux Pubbie I've ever known you lack the balls to admit the harsh reality that we either secede from this gutter Union with the Rats or perish as self-respecting and free human beings.

It's over. Got it? No, apparently not.

Had you half a brain (which you obviously haven't) then last night's Imperial Decree should have disabused you of any notion of a Constitutional remedy when over half the population of the former United States voted for Zero twice in a row.

There's no way this is gonna end nice. The Constitution is a dead letter. We fight or we allow ourselves to be enslaved.

If you're not able to embrace reality, kindly go pi$$ up a rope and stay clear of real Americans.

This Navy vet was not descended from timid men.

40 posted on 11/21/2014 6:20:08 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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