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How ISIS Drives Muslims From Islam [And towards atheism]
New York Times ^ | 12/08/2014 | Thomas Friedman

Posted on 12/08/2014 10:47:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind

THE Islamic State has visibly attracted young Muslims from all over the world to its violent movement to build a caliphate in Iraq and Syria. But here’s what’s less visible — the online backlash against the Islamic State, also known as ISIS and ISIL, by young Muslims declaring their opposition to rule by Islamic law, or Shariah, and even proudly avowing their atheism. Nadia Oweidat, a senior fellow at the New America Foundation, who tracks how Arab youths use the Internet, says the phenomenon “is mushrooming — the brutality of the Islamic State is exacerbating the issue and even pushing some young Muslims away from Islam.”

On Nov. 24, BBC.com published a piece on what was trending on Twitter. It began: “A growing social media conversation in Arabic is calling for the implementation of Shariah, or Islamic law, to be abandoned. Discussing religious law is a sensitive topic in many Muslim countries. But on Twitter, a hashtag which translates as ‘why we reject implementing Shariah’ has been used 5,000 times in 24 hours. The conversation is mainly taking place in Saudi Arabia and Egypt. The debate is about whether religious law is suitable for the needs of Arab countries and modern legal systems. Dr. Alyaa Gad, an Egyptian doctor living in Switzerland, started the hashtag. ‘I have nothing against religion,’ she tells BBC Trending, but says she is against ‘using it as a political system.’ ”

The BBC added that “many others joined in the conversation, listing reasons why Arabs and Muslims should abandon Shariah. ‘Because there’s not a single positive example of it bringing justice and equality,’ one man tweeted. ... A Saudi woman commented: ‘By adhering to Shariah we are adhering to inhumane laws. Saudi Arabia is saturated with the blood of those executed by Sharia.’ ”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: atheism; isis; islam

1 posted on 12/08/2014 10:47:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Ismail Mohamed, an Egyptian on a mission to create freedom of conscience there, started a program called “Black Ducks” to offer a space where agnostic and atheist Arabs can speak freely about their right to choose what they believe and resist coercion and misogyny from religious authorities. He is part of a growing Arab Atheists Network. For Arab news written by Arabs that gets right in the face of autocrats and religious extremists also check out freearabs.com.


2 posted on 12/08/2014 10:48:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Muslims killing muslims.
There’s a bright side to this story!


3 posted on 12/08/2014 10:49:28 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: SeekAndFind

There is actually a lot of evidence (http://www.charismamag.com/spirit/evangelism-missions/14442-when-musiims-see-jesus) that Muslims are seeing the evil inherent in Islam and leaving it for Christianity, not atheism.


4 posted on 12/08/2014 10:59:44 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: SeekAndFind; betty boop; marron; Alamo-Girl; Jacquerie; CottShop; metmom; xzins; GodGunsGuts; ...
Now here is an interesting development!
BEEP!
5 posted on 12/08/2014 11:03:37 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: SeekAndFind

Dang, I was encouraged by this headline - and then saw that it is Tom Friedman.


6 posted on 12/08/2014 11:09:24 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: SeekAndFind

People all over the world should reject Sharia law outright as it is nothing but a system of oppression for everyone affected.


7 posted on 12/08/2014 11:10:06 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: YHAOS

Thanks for the ping!


8 posted on 12/08/2014 11:10:56 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: SeekAndFind

Thomas Friedman has not gotten anything right in over 10 years. He is the NY Time’s editorial equivalent of Dick Morris.


9 posted on 12/08/2014 11:19:29 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: 3Fingas

But at least Dick would be a fun guy to go out drinking with.
Freidman is just an @sshat.


10 posted on 12/08/2014 11:20:29 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, Convict, Deport)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ah yes... the myth of the “moderate muslim”...


11 posted on 12/08/2014 11:21:40 AM PST by Kenton
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To: SeekAndFind

They ALMOST got it right

By adhering to *ISLAM* we are adhering to inhumane laws. Saudi Arabia is saturated with the blood of those executed by *ISLAM*


12 posted on 12/08/2014 11:33:44 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, dedicated nwo writer Tom is just reporting on the nwo operation.

ISIS/IL, being a nwo creation, has as one of its purposes promotion of new world order’s version of islam.

Well, and there’s that other thing, convincing young muslims and converts to go join the terror group.

If nwo can get a lot of muslims to embrace new world order secular humanism, just with a muslim “cultural twist”, but no rules as to what’s permissible and what’s not, they’ve got their muslim-American segment of American society poised for growth and helping to transform America into a “multi-cultural”, hedonistic new world order society.

Of course, nwo uses its terror groups extensively in promoting societal change and overthrowing governments.

NWO has been using islam for quite some time as an antithesis in a little Hegelian matchup against their portrayal of Western culture / Christianity, which they project as being reactionary, out-of-date, unjust/unfair, etc. The resultant synthesis they hope for, of course, is their own version of Western culture imposed on the world, e.g., nwo-corrupted Churches, nwo-corrupted business, nwo-corrupted government, etc., all under nwo supranational governance.

The nwo societal “plan” for America is aimed at stomping out the remnant of true Christianity, replacing it completely with corrupt CIA/establishment-controlled Church organizations. Thus any group that can be molded into something that attacks true Christian faith they find useful in their agenda. Without true Christian faith, fallen men invariably will jump in lock-step with nwo globalism, either through desire for personal gain, fear or simple naivete.


13 posted on 12/08/2014 12:03:04 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe not. A problem with Islam is that you cannot just “quit” and be an atheist, because they do not recognize that resignation in any way. This means that instead, Muslims convert to Christianity, which while other Muslims don’t like or respect it, it *is* recognized as a different religion. “He is not a Muslim, he is a Christian”, is all the difference in the world to an ex-Muslim.

This is happening on a grand scale in Africa, where hundreds of thousands of black Africans are quitting Islam and becoming either Catholics, Anglicans, or Evangelicals. This hemorrhaging in Islam has been noted with alarm in Riyadh, where the status of the ummah is tracked.

Blacks are seen as nothing more than inferior slaves in Islam, but Christianity not only recognizes them as people, but treat them just the same as other Christians.


14 posted on 12/08/2014 1:08:47 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

RE: This is happening on a grand scale in Africa, where hundreds of thousands of black Africans are quitting Islam and becoming either Catholics, Anglicans, or Evangelicals. This hemorrhaging in Islam has been noted with alarm in Riyadh, where the status of the ummah is tracked.

Fascinating. Can you provide a link for this news? Thanks.


15 posted on 12/08/2014 1:10:00 PM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are all sorts of links out there. I picked one that had originally been a report in al-Jazeera, which they have since pulled.

http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/al-jazeerah-6-million-muslims-convert-to-christianity-in-africa-each-year/

But the hemorrhaging is enormous. Lots of news about it.


16 posted on 12/08/2014 2:19:40 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s use teenage drinking as an analogy for religion.

*Your average semi-secular guy is drinking a wide variety of low-alcohol beers or wines. There are endless debates which is best.

*More hardcore guys are hitting whisky, brandy, etc. with gusto. The Average semi-secular guy is getting bit worried and uncomfortable how these guys slur their words and entertain crazy ideas. These guys know what they want and won’t settle for anything else.

*ISIS, in comparison, is the guy guzzling down undiluted Bacardi 151 without ice and insisting that you do the same. No wonder that even ...less enthusiastic rum drinkers (some heretics even dilute the stuff with Coke!) are trying to politely decline and avoid the guy. Some are even trying to swear off the booze entirely...


17 posted on 12/10/2014 6:17:52 AM PST by MirrorField (Just an opinion from atheist, minarchist and small-l libertarian.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

If there is anything the Left hates, it is Jesus Christ and His Gospel. Christians must never win. That’s why we hear nothing about it.


18 posted on 12/10/2014 1:52:39 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

There is some really amazing stuff going on in Africa.

One of the biggest “winners” is the (quite conservative) African Anglican church. Because of the radicalism of the Episcopalian (US Anglican) church, many conservative congregations chose to leave the Episcopal church and become African Missionary churches.

Still Anglican, their leaders are now African Bishops and Archbishops. And a huge amount of money from these American churches began to flow to Africa, right when they were being overwhelmed with converts to Christianity and needed to build hundreds of churches.

And conversions to Catholicism and Evangelism are also almost overwhelming. Evangelical churches in the US are pouring money into Africa at an unprecedented pace, to provide for all the converts.

This is on the plus side. There is also a lot of destruction going on. The Muslims are fighting back, to stop the hemorrhage, with vicious organizations like Boko Haram, that seeks to destroy everything Christian or western in their path.

All told, Africa is a very busy place right now.


19 posted on 12/10/2014 3:43:40 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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