Posted on 12/09/2014 8:41:20 AM PST by FatherofFive
President Obama said Tuesday that a long-awaited Senate report on CIA torture of terrorism suspects details “a troubling program” that harmed America’s reputation, reasons that he ended the practices soon after taking office.
In a statement before Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California released the report, Mr. Obama said the probe “reinforces my long-held view that these harsh methods were not only inconsistent with our values as nation, they did not serve our broader counterterrorism efforts or our national security interests.”
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I agree. Senator Frankenswine should be brought on charges for treason, and given the MAXIMUM punishment under the law.
There will not be a perceptible impact to US Security due to it's release. It's a far bigger deal here in the USA.
The foreigners already believe we do FAR worse than what this report talks about.
The big story in this report is this: Either the CIA lied to Congress (very big deal) or Congress is lying about what they were told.
I sense it's the latter. After all, the report says they Waterboarded KSM 183 times and got nothing of value.
HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!
I know that, you know that, the way the media reported it?
This is your typical democrat tactic.lose the election then badmouth your country.Dems are fond of doing this.They did the same thing during and following the Vietnam war.
These democrats are evil people who love placing the lives of others in danger because they’re not risking their loved ones who are serving to protect us from these terrorist animals.
Yes, agreed. My take on the Constitution is that among many of the things that revolted and dismayed the Framers was this. The English methods of execution in the past. The method was to draw out the death of the accused just as long as he/she could know and feel pain. (I will have to research as to when that method was discontinued).
Some of the punishments especially on Tower Hill,London, one can attribute to inhuman devils. The Framers knew they would have to have the death sentence for criminal conduct. They just wanted the orgy of torturing of a poor wretch, with the amusement of the stench ridden crowd watching, to be ended.
I winced at the disclosure of the methods used by the CIA et al. I ask myself, why in the name of heaven release this stuff?
He is but in this case he didn’t want that released. Congress told him to go pound sand....Sec of State too.
Just another ploy by the scrapings from the bottom of the democrat cesspool. Providing this today will allow the media lapdogs to scuttle the Gruber vs Gruber hearings. We can’t have the public hearing about how they were lied to about Obamacare. After all they may wake up and find out that the democrats know who they are dealing with.
Gee wizz....we have two more years to go with the muzzie.
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Allegedly. He may well declare himself emperor for life.
Remember, it’s cruel AND unusual, not OR. It might be cruel if but it’s used often enough, it wouldn’t be unusual. 8^)
Triple dog dare him. The land would come unglued.
Navy Sere training in San Diego during late 60’s to early 70’s began with cooking trainees in a corrugated metal box. Next instructors in black pajamas carrying AK-47’s dragged them out to stand at attention while they hoisted the VC flag. The week went downhill from there. There was sleep deprivation, slapping, water boarding, stress positions, etc. with no Ensure offered.
Terrorists remain unresponsive to direct questioning and psychological gambits. Effective interrogation necessitates also applying all stress and coercion techniques our military encounters in survival schools. Effective interrogation requires combining these techniques within a continually confused and uncertain environment.
Rep. Peter DeFazio wrote to me of 20 former Army interrogators saying that abuse and torture of prisoners and detainees should be avoided at all costs. I find that assertion disturbing, because on Sept. 11, 2001, we were prepared to shoot down any civilian airliner that did not land immediately, regardless of its crew’s assertions. At what level of butchery do we decide to protect the lives of our citizens at all costs?
For my representative and others, U.S. victory definition must reside wholly within interrogation processes seeking tranquil, self-created moral high ground, affirming their illusion of national greatness. Islamic jihadists define victory as U.S. submission through elaborate and extensive slaughters. Given jihadists avoid desired U.S. scenarios for conflict, they win by their definition. However, according to Congress, the President, the media and our intellectual elites, we perish by the thousands, but win by our definition.
I wonder if many people would even notice. Unfortunately, not everyone pays as much attention as FReepers do.
They withhold Obozo’s records, Benghazi, Fast/Furious documents, withhold IRS intimidation, withhold NSA spying documents, but by goodness we gonna release classified intelligence that will help our enemies.
Bunch of traitors.
Obama kills 15 year old Americans via drone and absent any due process. That is just okie dokie. Bust dunks KSM to save American lives. That is heinous. Our country is lost.
A liberal who wants to argue against torture could just point to the U.N. Convention Against Torture. The issue is not whether torture is illegal--it clearly is not--but rather whether the acts described in this report are torture.
Fifth Column
They will not argue the legality of torture, or whether it is in fact torture or not. They will instead argue whether it is ‘moral’ or ‘immoral’, thus taking the self-righteous high ground for themselves, under their private definition of ‘morality’. To them it does not matter about legality, only what they perceive as being their moral duty to stop it, regardless of its effectiveness, which they claim is ineffective and unnecessary.
The mind of a liberal is so naive as to be dangerous to themselves and others. These terrorists would kill them and their families without a seconds hesitation, and the liberals would try to ‘understand’ them while doing so....................
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed. Nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
I find, to my chagrin I was absolutely wrong in one sense. It was the English Parliament that put a stop to the barbaric tortures of the condemned. The English Bill of Rights 1685 declared torture had to stop. One, Titus Oates convicted of multiple perjury, was whipped, while dragged by a cart.This case aroused the reformers.
I was right in saying the Framers of the Constitution were appalled by what had gone on in England. Nonetheless England had already six years prior, had their own edict. Read to King William 111,before Parliament. That of no cruel and unusual punishment.
Mea Culpa.
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