Posted on 01/05/2015 9:36:40 PM PST by Nachum
In its first ruling of 2015, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has held that businesses may not allow individuals to use their equipment to further process incomplete firearm blanks, frames and receivers , attorney Joshua Prince reported Saturday. Such businesses may not assist or provide machinery access to unlicensed individuals without being licensed firearms manufacturers.
The ruling, signed by ATF Director B. Todd Jones on Friday, also holds that the businesses must identify (mark) any such firearm and maintain manufacturing records, and that Gun Control Act requirements may not be avoided by allowing persons to perform processes on machinery, tools and equipment a business controls access to. Excluded from the ruling are weapons and devices regulated by the National Firearms Act.
The effect of this ruling will be to close down operations in which persons who are legally entitled to manufacture their own firearms for personal use are permitted by a business to use its equipment, either with instruction or without. Provided such firearms are not intended to be sold or distributed, marking and record-keeping requirements do not apply. By changing the rules, ATF has closed down a means by which people who lack the equipment themselves to finish off a part will be able to exercise their right to build a firearm, a practice many rely on, particularly when completing so-called 80 percent precursor receivers.
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Is there any basis in the USC for the existence of the ATF?
none
Don't we have special people who are tasked with making laws? Why is an unelected bureaucrat telling free people what they can or cannot machine on their own equipment?
Article. I.
Section. 1.
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
None.
It's actually a relic, a holdover from prohibition which you'd think was repealed by Amendment XXI, but apparently case-law trumps constitutional law.
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Not long after the decision in Raich, the Court vacated a lower court decision in United States v. Stewart and remanded it to the court of appeals for reconsideration in light of Raich. In Stewart, the Ninth Circuit had held that Congress lacked the Commerce Clause power to criminalize the possession of homemade machine guns.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._Raich
Bingo. Nice catch.
What would stop people from forming a coop and buying such machinery in common?
> Comin’ for yer guns
Especially the ones that haven’t been manufactured yet so it seems.
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Nothing would sop people. They cannot do a thing to stop self made (and now printed) guns. People are arming themselves to the teeth. They see what's happening.
It is now only a matter of when.
“What would stop people from forming a coop and buying such machinery in common?”
Why bother? You can buy a very nice bench top mill for a few hundred bucks! That’s really all the “machinery” you need.
viz
Mills for making gunpowder and manufactories for arms were set up in several of the colonies and great encouragement was offered for making saltpeter. The History of the Origin, Progress, and Termination of the .American War, Stedman, C. 1794, Volume 1, p.110
1775 Preparations were now making in all the colonies for holding the general congress which was to meet at Philadelphia in the month of May. It has been before observed that the inhabitants of the middle and southern colonies began to arm themselves individually towards the end of the preceding year. = Stedman,p.115
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"that it lay for further consideration The Committee to draw a Plan for Providing fire arms for a Colony Stock Report as follows viz That for every good firearm Manufactured in this Colony made after the following manner viz a Barrell three feet nine Inches long to carry an ounce ball a good Bayonet with blade Eighteen inches long Iron ramrod with a Spring to retain the Same the makers name Engraved on the Lock which Shall be delivered at Exeter to Nicholas Gilmnn Esq receiver General on or before the first of May next the owner of Such firearms receive Three pounds for Each of said receiver General after having Tryed said gun in the Presence of the said receiver General. Such firearms receive Three pounds for Each of said receiver General after having Tryed said gun in the Presence of the said receiver General with four Inches & a half of Powder well wadded at his the owner's own Risque and that there be appointed one Good man well approved in Each County to receive any firearms so made in said County on the Same Condition as before mentioned for the rec General to receive them and the Persons so appointed to receive the money for the Number of Guns so Delivered" p15, "Provincial and State Papers, Volume 8 during the revolution 1776-1783" By New Hampshire ", Nathaniel Bouton
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citizens make gunpowder ingredients
"but the making of Salt Petre has made such rapid progress especially at Portsmouth where both clergy and Laity are employed six days in the week 8 the Seventh is seasoned with it." "Provincial and State Papers, Volume 8 during the revolution 1776-1783" By New Hampshire ", Nathaniel Bouton p26 taken from "the new hampshire gazette", Jan 9 1776, No.1001
viz 1777 Sept. "24th Weather delightful. 4 or 5 shot exchanged between our [British] foraging parties and the rebels about 9 this morning. Early this morning our pickets in the rear fired at some straggling rebels.
This township of Norrington is very rebellious. All the manufactures about this country seem to consist of Powder, Ball, Shot, firearms and swords.
The army halted this day."
1777 Nov. "6th ...Quarter Master General received orders to fix our Quarters near this city, intended for 10,000 men. Gun powder found lodged in Chimneys of this city by the rebels." [Philadelphia]
p.474, Montresor. "The Montresor Journals", Volume 14 By John Montrésor, James Gabriel Montrésor : Gideon Delaplaine Scull, - 1882
“businesses may not allow individuals to use their equipment to further process incomplete firearm blanks, frames and receivers ,”
But it`s legal for a ROBOT to run the gun-making equipment and make a gun.
My local FFLs have finished receivers without the internal parts as cheap as $60. I may buy one just to have the fun of assembling a lower with my choice of components.
I have heard of them. Heard a lot of their clients are police and ex-military.
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