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USA Today, Who Refused To Publish Ann Coulter, Publishes Radical Imam’s Op-Ed
Daily Caller ^ | 1/7/14 | ALEX GRISWOLD

Posted on 01/08/2015 11:51:49 AM PST by Impala64ssa

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To: Kackikat

The Crusades were launched to roll back the Islamic/Seljuk Turk occupation of then-Christian lands now known as Israel, Jordan and Syria. You got a problem with that?


21 posted on 01/08/2015 1:17:43 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.")
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To: Kackikat

“No kingdom has shed more blood than the Kingdom of Christ.”
-Montesquieu


22 posted on 01/08/2015 1:25:35 PM PST by oblomov
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--- REMEMBER THE CRUSADES, THE INQUISITION? Whose God was that? It wasn’t mine. ---

Do know that the Crusades were a centuries-late reaction to the Mohammedan conquest of most of Christendom, and that the Spanish Inquisition was part of a centuries-long effort to drive the "Moors" out of Spain?

The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition BBC video.

Summary of the video.

23 posted on 01/08/2015 1:33:37 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Kackikat
Pretty interesting articles on the Spanish Inquisition by Thomas Madden. It's actually worth a look.

Here's an intriguing insight: when medieval people were suspected (probably by their neighbors) of malicious conjuring or other deviltry, the options were the following (1) trial by your medieval lord, who had a vested intrest in a guilty verdict, since he could penalize you by taking your home and property; (2) mob action, in which you'd likely die rather quickly and badly; or (3) the Inquisition (the word means, simply, "Investigation," neither more nor less) in which the Church had actual, well, investigations.

Bottom line: it was a search for evidence, with witnesses, advocates, cross-examinations, etc.: without a doubt the fairest as well as the most lenient courts in Europe. (Gotta see this in context.) The Inquisition practically invented procedural due process.

Madden: "By the 14th century, the Inquisition represented the best legal practices available. Inquisition officials were university-trained specialists in law and theology. The procedures were similar to those used in secular inquisitions (we call them “inquests” today, but it’s the same word).

"The simple fact is that the medieval Inquisition saved uncounted thousands of innocent (and even not-so-innocent) people who would otherwise have been roasted by secular lords or mob rule."

OK, flame on. I mean, let the discussion continue.

24 posted on 01/08/2015 1:42:20 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.")
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/systematic.pdf

The Crusades is defended by Catholics because they won’t accept that some Popes’ were evil. The Knights Templar were created by the Pope and later dis banned by a Pope due to their atrocities. Of course the Freemasons want to rewrite history with Knights Templar their origin. and they are basis of NWO. No surprise there.

Yes, the Muslims were the cause of the Inquisition, but what happened once it started is also matter of fact. And once the evil ones were driven from Jerusalem, and the Moors from Spain...then the Catholic Church began it’s own persecution of Jews and Protestants, with death to those who did not convert....that’s history too.

The liberals would love to rewrite that truth, especially the Catholics.


25 posted on 01/08/2015 1:49:22 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Mrs. Don-o

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Inquisition.html

I would not believe a Catholic Explanation of The Inquisition, that’s like accepting the murderer’s account of the crime at face value and no investigation.


26 posted on 01/08/2015 2:19:54 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Inquisition.html


27 posted on 01/08/2015 2:21:02 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: oblomov

Yes...The things done in God’s name (Christianity too) is vast. Which makes me think that saying these people are Christian, just because they say they are is deceptive. “I can stand in a garage and say I am a car, but that does not make me a car.”

However the Muslims of old have shed so many millions to try and destroy Christianity in former centuries. So the numbers are incalculable now.

I find Communism in past couple of centuries rival with it’s million, now billions or trillions?? and may rival those of religious believers. Murders in the name of an ideology that is non religious.


28 posted on 01/08/2015 2:28:28 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Impala64ssa

Ann Coulter is not one of U.S.A Today’s people. The muslims are.


29 posted on 01/08/2015 2:29:57 PM PST by sport
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Just another communist rag and another reason to boycott U.S.A. Today.


30 posted on 01/08/2015 2:32:18 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: sport

Just another communist rag and another reason to boycott U.S.A. Today.


31 posted on 01/08/2015 2:32:20 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: Impala64ssa

Probably going to get flamed here, but I think USA Today may actually have done a public service by letting Choudary have his rant. Aside from maybe other Muslims, who already agreed with him, I think his invective showed even the low-information holdouts that Islamm is not a religion of Peace.


32 posted on 01/08/2015 2:37:06 PM PST by rbg81
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To: DaveA37

The next copy of it will be the first. Hell will long have frozen over before I even consider purchasing a copy. In fact, I never read one if I see one laying around in a doctor’s office or restaurant. When I pick it up and see “U.S.A. Today” on it, I lay it back down.


33 posted on 01/08/2015 2:38:24 PM PST by sport
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I would re-consider your view of God. He rules the nations with justice and righteousness. When the Israelites were to go into the promised land, God specifically told them that they were given the land because the people who lived there were evil. They were even causing their firstborn to pass through the fire, an unthinkable practice. The Israelites were warned that if they followed the ways of those people, the same would happen to them. They did and it did happen.

So. God rules the nations. He had Israel invaded by the Babylonians. Those taken away as slaves survived. Those who fled to Egypt or stayed died.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom. The fear of the Lord Jesus is the beginning of wisdom.


34 posted on 01/08/2015 2:55:54 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

I have no idea why you are attacking me for no reason. So go away hateful person.


35 posted on 01/08/2015 3:08:50 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: huldah1776

And quit trying to say God is behind all wars, he isn’t.


36 posted on 01/08/2015 3:12:33 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: DaveA37

USA Today must have an agreement with hotels, because, that’s what greets you in front of your door every morning in the places, I’ve stayed. Then there is the TV in the lobby, permanently tuned to CNN.


37 posted on 01/08/2015 3:21:11 PM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: huldah1776

You might want to reconsider your views on The Inquisition:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican29.htm#The Church


38 posted on 01/08/2015 3:25:22 PM PST by Kackikat
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Thank you for sending the links. I will look them up. This is all relevant to historic and moral judgment, so I appreciate it.

Thomas Madden and Edward Peters did professional historiography a very good turn by going through actual legal records, court transcripts, archives, etc. and putting together a realistic, documented view of what was happening with the various Inquisitions over a period of 300+ years. A lot of these records only became available in 1975 with the death of Franco is Spain.

Anyone, of any religion or allegiance, ought to be interested in documentary evidence. Not to take evidence into account, is dishonorable.

Here's a pretty good place to start, if you're interested int he facts.

If you're not interested, then good day to you.

39 posted on 01/08/2015 3:25:49 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." -- Flannery O'Connor)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican29.htm#The Church


40 posted on 01/08/2015 3:26:13 PM PST by Kackikat
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