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What the Pope Got Wrong About Free Speech
National Review ^ | 01/16/2015 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 01/16/2015 6:37:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: ZULU

Agreed.


21 posted on 01/16/2015 8:25:57 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sadly the Pope is showing his Marxist roots. He obviously has no understanding of the concept of God given liberties including the freedom of speech or of the dehumanizing effect of socialism where the individual is subservient to the state. The concept of individuals being endowed by their Creator with the inalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness that is the basis of our Constitution is a product of the Protestant Enlightenment.


22 posted on 01/16/2015 8:28:34 AM PST by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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To: independentmind; SeekAndFind

Important point here.

While CH was trashing Christians, the Leftists and their media running dogs were fine with it - after all, Christians are easy targets; any complanit was dealt with by the smear machine.

But when Allah Snackbar attacks and kills them, THEN AND ONLY THEN is there solidarity from the Left.


23 posted on 01/16/2015 8:29:42 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
He’s an Argentine Socialist.

Sorry American Catholics. He's not on your side.

24 posted on 01/16/2015 8:36:57 AM PST by polymuser ( Enough is enough)
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To: ZULU

Being utterly Christian doesn’t border on Islamic.

The two concepts of deity are grossly different.


25 posted on 01/16/2015 9:11:00 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Old Sarge

Sometimes it takes the Evil Meanies to remind the secular world who their worst enemies are — and that this is not Christians.


26 posted on 01/16/2015 9:12:42 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Truly, I don’t think they think this. By the time they figure it out, it may be too late.


27 posted on 01/16/2015 9:51:04 AM PST by independentmind
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To: livius

What Did the Saints Say about Islam?

Spirit Daily ^ | August 12, 2014 | By Andrew Bieszad on
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3247130/posts

“On the other hand, those who founded sects committed to erroneous doctrines proceeded in a way that is opposite to this, the point is clear in the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity. He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms—which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants.”

-St. Thomas Aquinas (d. 1274), Theologian and Doctor of the Church. Quoted from his De Rationibus Fidei Contra Saracenos, Graecos, et Armenos and translated from Fr. Damian Fehlner’s Aquinas on Reasons for the Faith: Against the Muslims, Greeks, and Armenians (Franciscans of the Immaculate. 2002.).

Even if all the things contained in his law were fables in philosophy and errors in theology, even for those who do not possess the light of reason, the very manners (Islam) teaches are from a school of vicious bestialities. (Muhammad) did not prove his new sect with any motive, having neither supernatural miracles nor natural reasons, but solely the force of arms, violence, fictions, lies, and carnal license. It remains an impious, blasphemous, vicious cult, an innovention of the devil, and the direct way into the fires of hell. It does not even merit the name of being called a religion.”

-St. Juan de Ribera (d.1611), Archbishop of Valencia, missionary to Spanish Muslims, and organizer of the Muslim expulsions of 1609 from Spain. Quoted in several locations from his 1599 Catechismo para la Instruccion de los Nuevos Convertidos de los Moros (my translation).

“The Mahometan paradise, however, is only fit for beasts; for filthy sensual pleasure is all the believer has to expect there.”

St. Alfonsus Liguori (d. 1787). Quoted from his book, The History of Heresies and their Refutation.


28 posted on 01/16/2015 9:51:28 AM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

What I meant was the idea that what happened in this world was really irrelevant.


29 posted on 01/16/2015 1:36:55 PM PST by ZULU (Je Suis Charlie. . GET IT OBAMA, OR DON'T YOU??)
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To: ZULU

There is a superficial commonality in holding eternity to be the most important thing. But it makes a vast difference what kind of God you acknowledge eternity to be in the hands of.


30 posted on 01/16/2015 2:44:03 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ZULU

And anyhow, not even Muslims preach such a thing. Why would they bother doing anything in this world at all if it did not matter.


31 posted on 01/16/2015 2:45:48 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

They don’t care what kind of wasteland they create around them as long as Allah is pleased. They don’t care about dying themselves or killing other people as they will enjoy 99 virgins in heaven. In that sense they don’t. It’s like medieval theology on steroids.


32 posted on 01/16/2015 2:56:20 PM PST by ZULU (Je Suis Charlie. . GET IT OBAMA, OR DON'T YOU??)
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To: ZULU

Well, sometimes the medievals got a bad rap as being even worse than they were.

A proper focus on eternity will cause it to be mirrored, however imperfectly, on earth.

Allah is not Jehovah. Get that perfectly straight. One is evil, one is not.


33 posted on 01/16/2015 3:00:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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