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Edward Snowden talks 'Citizenfour' with Poitras, Greenwald
CNET.com ^ | February 13, 2015 | Edward Moyer

Posted on 02/13/2015 1:59:02 PM PST by Mad Dawgg

It was just like old times, sort of.

On Thursday, NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden got together again with journalist Glenn Greenwald and filmmaker and journalist Laura Poitras to talk surveillance, reliving in a sense their now historic secret meeting two summers ago in a Hong Kong hotel room.

That first time around, Snowden handed the two a huge cache of top secret National Security Agency documents and asked them to let the public know about the NSA's gigantic and constitutionally questionable appetite for people's data. The meeting set off a chain of events that led to, among other things, consternation in Silicon Valley about the privacy of customer data; international outrage over tapped phones; high-profile reassurances from the president about agency reform; the awarding of a Pulitzer Prize (shared by Greenwald, Poitras and others); and, more recently, a nomination for an Academy Award.

The last item was in part the reason for the reunion, where, this time around, Snowden couldn't be present in the flesh but instead beamed in on a live feed from Russia, where he's been holed up since the document handoff. Poitras famously filmed the initial encounter, with the UK's Guardian news site publishing a short video interview with Snowden when he revealed himself as the source of the leaks. In the film "Citizenfour" -- named for an alias used by Snowden -- Poitras taps previously unseen footage to chronicle the exchange and the surveillance-related circumstances surrounding it. Some have pegged the film as a shoo-in for Best Documentary Feature at the Oscars on February 22.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: leaker; leaks; nomoresecrets; snowden; traitor
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When you watch this Documentary it will change the whole idea of how secure digital communications are.

When you see any company advertise they have a secure system be it a cell phone or anything else you will understand it's a steaming pile of Bull Feces.

1 posted on 02/13/2015 1:59:03 PM PST by Mad Dawgg
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To: Mad Dawgg

Bullet to the head would be nice. How many agents overseas have been killed and how much more has been compromised by this piss ant than we already know?


2 posted on 02/13/2015 2:00:59 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Almost as bad as our President....


3 posted on 02/13/2015 2:06:21 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: A CA Guy
Yep that is unfortunate BUT should the NSA be spying on ALL US citizens who use digital communications?

I am going to say no. And being the NSA was violating EVERY US Citizen's Constitutional Rights who uses Diigital Communications then if the only way to get that out in the public is to risk the lives of U.S. Spies well they took an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC.

4 posted on 02/13/2015 2:07:26 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
That first time around, Snowden handed the two a huge cache of top secret National Security Agency documents and asked them to let the public know about the NSA's gigantic and constitutionally questionable appetite for people's data. The meeting set off a chain of events that led to, among other things, consternation in Silicon Valley about the privacy of customer data; international outrage over tapped phones; high-profile reassurances from the president about agency reform; the awarding of a Pulitzer Prize (shared by Greenwald, Poitras and others); and, more recently, a nomination for an Academy Award.

Two summers ago. So I take it that the NSA has stopped? That the people behind it are out of work?

It's still business as usual.

5 posted on 02/13/2015 2:11:48 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: a fool in paradise
"It's still business as usual."

If a Republican had been President a few heads would have rolled. Nothing would have changed afterwards when such happened but the alphabet news agencies and cable news would have howled to high heaven for Repub heads.

Since Obama was President, Big News Media's collective response was "meh"...

6 posted on 02/13/2015 2:17:18 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
I agree with you. So we argue if he is a traitor or hero, and a certain element among us goes back to every time Kim Kardashian does something. We are being manipulated, and, if anything, they NSA & Fiends have stepped up their efforts.

We really need to vote them out in 2016 lol. Would Mia Love go to the mat over it?

7 posted on 02/13/2015 2:18:18 PM PST by Aliska
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You don't understand.

He is a hero, because he got paid by Red China to give Red China documented proof of US espionage.

Everyone knows that Red China is a bastion of freedom and wants what's best for Americans.

8 posted on 02/13/2015 2:21:52 PM PST by wideawake
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To: a fool in paradise

“Two summers ago. So I take it that the NSA has stopped? That the people behind it are out of work?

It’s still business as usual.”

I don’t like traitors! That said, I am just wondering who the traitors are here? I am not sure I want to “trade” my freedom for security if I have to live in a country where your every move can be noted and archived. We wouldn’t need the kind of surveillance that the NSA does if we had secure borders, but then the GOP donors wouldn’t have cheap labor and the RATs wouldn’t have guaranteed voters.


9 posted on 02/13/2015 2:28:04 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Mad Dawgg

Yada Yada.

So has the Snowden sideshow actually CHANGED anything? What exactly was “private” on DARPAnet in the first place?

Meanwhile the statue of limitations is ticking away for those who raped and pillaged the global economic infrastructure...

And the kleptocrats laugh.


10 posted on 02/13/2015 2:30:12 PM PST by HLPhat (This space is intentionaly blank.)
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I’m saying that Snowden did nothing to make us safer because every bit of it continues and no prosecutions or terminations occurred for those violating privacy.

A bunch of chest pumping and Pulitzer/film fest award winning.

Would the Watergate have mattered without the removal of Nixon?


11 posted on 02/13/2015 2:54:39 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: A CA Guy

I think he’s a hero of sorts.


12 posted on 02/13/2015 3:13:45 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: wideawake
"He is a hero, because he got paid by Red China to give Red China documented proof of US espionage."

yep I believe that...

cuz the NSA said they were afraid Eddie was going to defect to China...

And of course I believe EVERYTHING the NSA sez...

They would never lie...

13 posted on 02/13/2015 3:23:50 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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“I’m saying that Snowden did nothing to make us safer because every bit of it continues and no prosecutions or terminations occurred for those violating privacy.”

Well, he did alert us all to the abuses that were/are going on with the NSA. W/O his releases, we as citizens would never have known the dimensions of what the NSA/FedGov is doing. Nothing, Nada, Zip! We may not yet be any safer, but at least the framework of what the NSA is doing has been exposed. Then there’s this supposed issue that he has “exposed” operatives. But then we only “know” that by reason of what the NSA has said. W/O releasing any classified info, our government could have told us in broad terms what the were doing, but then didn’t which only leads to the speculation that some of it treads on our Constitutional liberties. All of this is BS because our government refuses for political reasons to not do some of the most basic stuff to protect us from those who wish to do us harm. They can start by sealing up the border (both borders), and start enforcing “no fly” protocols that keep anyone and everyone from the ME out of our country. After they do that, then they can start complaining about all the “damage” Snowden has done to our nation’s security, but not before.


14 posted on 02/13/2015 3:45:48 PM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387
"Well, he did alert us all to the abuses that were/are going on with the NSA. W/O his releases, we as citizens would never have known the dimensions of what the NSA/FedGov is doing. Nothing, Nada, Zip! We may not yet be any safer, but at least the framework of what the NSA is doing has been exposed. Then there’s this supposed issue that he has “exposed” operatives. But then we only “know” that by reason of what the NSA has said. W/O releasing any classified info, our government could have told us in broad terms what the were doing, but then didn’t which only leads to the speculation that some of it treads on our Constitutional liberties. All of this is BS because our government refuses for political reasons to not do some of the most basic stuff to protect us from those who wish to do us harm. They can start by sealing up the border (both borders), and start enforcing “no fly” protocols that keep anyone and everyone from the ME out of our country. After they do that, then they can start complaining about all the “damage” Snowden has done to our nation’s security, but not before."


15 posted on 02/13/2015 4:14:28 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: A CA Guy

Yeah, how dare he expose that our government’s surveillance exceeds anything the Stasi ever dreamed of, does t outside the law, and saves every digital communication in our country?
He should have just reported to the people doing it that it was wrong, so they could have addressed it.


16 posted on 02/13/2015 4:25:55 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino
NSA: Ed Snowden turned us into a newt!!!!!

NSA: (we got better...)

17 posted on 02/13/2015 4:31:32 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: a fool in paradise

It probably didn’t change anything. But he did his part exposing it. He, nor the American people, have the power to stop the NSA internal spying apparatus now.
The big clue is when the director of the NSA was caught in an absolute lie in a congressional hearing, and suffered no consequences at all.
But Snowden did his part.


18 posted on 02/13/2015 4:32:34 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: vette6387

“All of this is BS because our government refuses for political reasons to not do some of the most basic stuff to protect us from those who wish to do us harm”

Exactly. The same government that runs guns to the cartels, opens the borders, floods the country with moslems of every stripe after 9/11 (Skinnies from Somalia, Afghans, Pakis, Palis, Syrians, Egyptians,,,etc)Starts moslem brotherhood revolts across the middle east, runs missiles to ISIS through Benghazi, etc etc.
THIS same government dares wag their finger and tell us that interfering with their covert operations endangers national security. Its a joke.


19 posted on 02/13/2015 4:38:01 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

lol


20 posted on 02/13/2015 4:39:04 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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