Gene-Altered Apples Get U.S. Approval(GMO Fruit)

NY Times ^ | 2/14/15 | ANDREW POLLACK

[Toddsterpatriot]

Glyphosate is put in the genetically spliced seeds

Wrong.

Do you know what Glyphosate does to bugs? It blows holes in their gut.

Wrong again.

Therefore, it does the same to in our colon track where our good or bad health originates.

Nope.

You should stop posting so many errors.

Glyphosate is an herbicide. It kills weeds. It's not a pesticide.

[Enlightened1]

You better be scared of this stuff. It will kill you.

The fact that all these biotech people think they’re saviors to the food industry. Yet they refuse to support consumer choice through honest labeling. Further demonstrates the ethical lapses that are almost universal in biotech today. Then again, you really have to be a horrible person in the first place to profit from creating the risk of runaway genetic pollution that might theoretically damage all the world’s fruits crops in unforeseeable ways.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. To them the school of though is no risk to nature over the next century is too large to make another buck today. They have no Souls. They are only loyal to the 30 silver coins.

[Enlightened1]

Okay Troll....

You need to quit reading the Monsanto propaganda.

Furthermore, I cannot understand how you can support a company that does not want to label their food? If it’s so good and they are proud of their Dr. Mengele seeds then why not label it? Why hide it?

GlyphosateRoundUp is one of the least safe herbicides on the market. That’s a load of bull.

You are like the Government in the 1950s that said smoking is good for you.

All Lies! Lies! Lies!

I can’t believe you are THAT GULLIBLE to believe their filthy lies!

“The way glyphosate works is that it interrupts the shikimate pathway, a metabolic function in plants that allows them to create essential amino acids. When this path is interrupted, the plants die. Human cells don’t have a shikimate pathway so scientists and researchers believed that exposure to glyphosate would be harmless.”

-Dr. Stephanie Seneff (Senior Research Scientist at the MIT)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikimic_acid#Shikimate_pathway

Another quote

“The problem is that bacteria DO have a shikimate pathway and we have millions of good bacteria in our guts – our ‘gut flora.’ These bacteria are essential to our health. Our gut isn’t just responsible for digestion, but also for our immune system. When glyphosate gets in our systems, it wrecks our gut and as a result our immune system.”

http://wyebrookfarm.com/an-interview-with-jeffery-smith-and-dr-stephanie-seneff-glyphosate/

[VanShuyten]

I think people have confused the pesticide GM BT, with the herbicide GM Roundup, neither of which have been shown to affect humans.

Others are just confused about genetics.

[Dusty Road]

A much better example than I could find or explain, grab your 4 wheeler and spray rig and try to knock down that weed crop and not touch the corn.

[Dusty Road]

“Glyphosate is put in the genetically spliced seeds, that can only be used once by the way (unlike a nature seed), in order to keep the bugs off.”

Glyphosate is not put in to seeds nor is it a pesticide, it’s damn weed killer. Your sounding more and more foolish with every word you type.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Okay Troll....

Is everyone who points out your massive confusion a troll, or just me?

I cannot understand how you can support a company that does not want to label their food?

Monsanto sells food? Or is that more of your confusion?

GlyphosateRoundUp is one of the least safe herbicides

Herbicide? LOL!

You are like the Government in the 1950s that said smoking is good for you.

Link?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah, not a lot of science mixed in with their confusion.

[Enlightened1]

You and handful of dumb@sses are the people confused.

What you are hen-pecking is not even debated by either side of the debate. So you are just spinning your wheels going no where fast.

Monsanto’s sell the GMO seeds that they do not want to be labeled. Even Monsanto admits this you dumb@ass. Again you are the only one saying this. LOL!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/5430867/5430867

Oh what keeps it from Oxidation? It’s the Formaldehyde (aka embalming fluid for the dead). Oh but if you don’t mind that and think it’s great when company masks manufacture dates. Eat it up smart guy!

Here is that link you asked for. You have to be the only person I ever talked to, besides little kids, that did not know this. Ask anyone that was around at that time and they will confirm it with you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-y_N4u0uRQ

and

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1470496/

[jpsb]

"My tomatoes don’t need flounder genes."

Bump!

[Toddsterpatriot]

Monsanto’s sell the GMO seeds that they do not want to be labeled.

Of course the seeds they sell are labeled. How else would the farmers know what they were planting?

Here is that link you asked for. You have to be the only person I ever talked to, besides little kids, that did not know this.

Thanks for the links.

You are like the Government in the 1950s that said smoking is good for you.

I've seen your confusion before, but this is a new one.

Do you understand the difference between "the Government" and "Some doctors"?

Maybe you should ask some little kids for help?

[cva66snipe]

Basically from what a yard guy told me Roundup and similar herbicides {I knew it was such} essentially causes a plant to grow itself to death in a matter of hours. That said I've read the manufactures labels when I use them. When I spray my driveway drainage ditch I wear old clothes I can toss in the garbage after I'm done. Would I want to eat food sprayed with Roundup? No not really. If I understand it the Roundup is used to control weeds growing near the crops. IOW between the rows. I used to just run a tiller through every week or two for that very purpose.

The Genetic to me is a different matter and I consider this two different matters. The genetic altering besides the major "Taste" and "Quality" issue which is obviously being ignored. My concern is are they going to genetically alter non MSO plants & trees out of existence via cross pollination. Simply meaning destroying Heirloom seeds. That is a legitimate concern. If you can alter a plant to achieve desired results for your plants you can do likewise to harm those of others. Right?

In an age where corps are trying their darnest to force you by law if possible buy their product or else even going as far as using government to force you {such as insurers have done with healthcare and other insurances} I'm simply a healthy skeptic as to the ethics involved :>} IOW do I trust corps to "Always" do what is right? NO! They are there to make money.

Nothing wrong with making money as long as it's made honestly and not at the expense of walking all over others including their rights and legitimate concerns for the well being of others be damned to do it.

[Lurker]

Every single bite of food you put in your body has been genetically modified. Every single bite.

L

[Toddsterpatriot]

The active ingredient in Roundup PROMAX herbicide is glyphosate, the common name for N-(phosphonomethyl) glycine. It inhibits an enzyme that is essential to formation of specific essential amino acids in plants. Roundup PROMAX is absorbed into green leaves or green stems of treated vegetation. Once there, glyphosate moves or "translocates" throughout the plant. Obvious signs of treatment may not be visible for one to four days in annual weeds and up to seven days or more in perennials. Visible effects include gradual wilting, yellowing - followed by complete browning, deterioration of plant tissue and ultimate decomposition of the underground roots and rhizomes. Since Roundup works only on plants that have emerged through the soil, it will not affect seeds below the soil surface that have not yet sprouted.

http://www.monsanto.com/products/pages/frequently-asked-questions.aspx

Would I want to eat food sprayed with Roundup? No not really.

Who sprays their food with Roundup?

The genetic altering besides the major "Taste" and "Quality" issue which is obviously being ignored.

Who told you those were being ignored?

My concern is are they going to genetically alter non MSO plants & trees out of existence via cross pollination. Simply meaning destroying Heirloom seeds.

Which Heirloom seeds are threatened?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not every single bite, but close enough.

[cva66snipe]

Who sprays their food with Roundup?

Beats me put look at a picture posted in this thread that I didn't post. Corn crop I think. If the plant isn't being sprayed then why RoundUp resistant?

The genetic altering besides the major "Taste" and "Quality" issue which is obviously being ignored. Who told you those were being ignored?

My taste buds. Small sized Apples sour and dry and they label them Red Delicious. Golden Delicious used to be yellow not Green Grapes that never are sweet. Oranges and Tangerienes with dry fruit and very little juice, Tomatoes so hard and dry inside they aren't worth buying and BTW I'm a county over from the so called Tomato capitol. When I see a sign that says Grainger County Tomatoes I keep on going. The tomatoes were good the first year or so then quickly after market got established got engineered into a bland dried out fruit. Turnips usually dried up no juice. It's foods I remember as a kid and even my young adult life that quickly left the stores in the past two decades. Potatoes & Onions seem to be the only thing that haven't had the taste destroyed or significantly reduced.

Which Heirloom seeds are threatened?

Good question. Who knows for certain..... Yet... How long did it take to get the growth hormones out of our meats? BTW for the record I don't mind paying extra for quality. I'd rather buy a $7.50 bag of Tangerines, Apples, Oranges, etc with decent taste and juicy than pay $5 for a bag where up to half of it has to be tossed because it is dried up inside. I also as much as possible buy from roadside farmers when stuff is in season. They eat what they grow so they too are after quality :>}

[Toddsterpatriot]

Corn crop I think. If the plant isn't being sprayed then why RoundUp resistant?

They spray the crop, not your food. Don't you wash your produce before you eat it? AFAIK, the stuff breaks down pretty quickly in the open air.

My taste buds.

How do your taste buds like the FlavrSavr tomatoes?

Small sized Apples sour and dry and they label them Red Delicious. Golden Delicious used to be yellow not Green Grapes that never are sweet.

AFAIK, none of those are GMO.

[cva66snipe]

How do your taste buds like the FlavrSavr tomatoes?

The truth as far as a raw product? I stopped buying store bought Tomatoes a couple years ago with the exception of Grape Tomatoes which have a good taste similar to a tomato of years past.

Small sized Apples sour and dry and they label them Red Delicious. Golden Delicious used to be yellow not Green Grapes that never are sweet. AFAIK, none of those are GMO.

I've been talking about both the simple grafted and GMO in that respect. They've sacrificed taste for desired packaging and shipping size. Didn't you read the others post on this thread? The other posters biggest complaints about fruit and vegetables on the market even in season concerned taste or rather lack thereof. A stupid idea to sacrifice shipping size for taste considering how quick shipping is now. If it's not for shipping reasons then why?

[Toddsterpatriot]

The truth as far as a raw product?

The truth is, they stopped growing them. People didn't like the taste.

The other posters biggest complaints about fruit and vegetables on the market even in season concerned taste or rather lack thereof.

Ease of shipping and shelf life issues. Issues they had long before GMO or RoundUp.

[cva66snipe]

The truth is, they stopped growing them. People didn't like the taste.

Yea right. People prefer bland over natural taste. Really? LOL. No! The wholesalers and retailers didn't care if it tasted like dog crap. A "you'll take what we screw up and like it or else" attitude on their part. They were the ones who pushed this nonsense. It was simply about shipping nothing more.

Ease of shipping and shelf life issues. Issues they had long before GMO or RoundUp.

Shipping issues which now can be resolved. The most fuel efficient way would be rail to central points then trucked locally or regionally. The quickest would be refrigerated truck. We still have rails and we still have trucks. We even have high speed trains.