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To: Gaffer
An Article V convention cannot amend the constitution.

Scotus has been busy amending it since the mid-1930s. Obama has been just as busy, and has assumed tyrannical powers. He has demonstrated that he is ready to deal with rebellion.

Your position denies we, the sovereign people the power to peacefully reframe a government..

27 posted on 03/20/2015 12:45:52 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Jacquerie
An Article V convention cannot amend the constitution

Here is Article V from the archives:

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate

So, here's the problem. What happens if at the conclusion of a CoS there are 3/4 (the same CoS that only needed 2/3 to propose it) approving of a proposed amendment? One hundred and forty three words with several options within itself that contain an option for CoS to make and amendment.

My problem is that there are a multitude of explanations about how this CoS (that hasn't been done before to my knowledge)would operate, what its protections are, how delegates are chosen and so on. The Article V is only 145 words (including the title), yet there are volumes of hypothetical explanations on how something that has never been done before will go.

I look back at this country's last few decades of nominations, elections, fraud, trickery, subterfuge, false candidates, strawmen, a colluding cabal of media and politicos and moneymen, and I just don't come away thinking this gambit could be pulled off in a sterile environment.

37 posted on 03/21/2015 2:52:14 AM PDT by Gaffer
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