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Baltimore prosecutor: Probable cause to file criminal charges in Gray’s death
Washington Post ^ | 5-1-15 | Lynh Bui and Dana Hedgpeth

Posted on 05/01/2015 7:56:27 AM PDT by markomalley

State’s Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby said Friday she has probable cause to file criminal charges in the much publicized death of 25-year-old Freddie Gray who died while in police custody.

Six officers, including a lieutenant and a sergeant, have been suspended after the incident. Gray suffered a spinal injury and died after riding in a police transport van that made several stops.

On Thursday, Baltimore’s police officials said they turned over their initial report to prosecutors — a day earlier than expected.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: badcopnodonut; baltimore; barackobama; ericholder; freddiegray; holder; justiceforfreddie; lorettalynch; lynch; obama; thugcops; thugdefender
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To: wardaddy
"Are we really going to stand around forever and just submit to this...I think so to be honest...Ironically...The Mexicans might not don't."

Our latino guests don't even consider it. If gringos want to whine and wring their hands and lose their country then that's whitey's problem. La Raza gets down to business.

521 posted on 05/01/2015 9:40:36 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
You speak of this as if you believe what the prosecutor has stated in her findings. I do not. I think we'll find much more to consider as this plays out. Have you been listening to “Mike” speaking on the Police officers behalf on Fox? (HE is an officer in Baltimore) He's on with Kelly, who imo asks him the right questions.

Tonight we learned it was not uncommon for Gray to make a scene when arrested and common this occurs with repeat offenders in order to look tough etc. among his peers and should any relay he'd been arrested and passed that information, but that once Gray is in the precinct he calms downs and in fact has helped them solve cases and make arrests in the past. "Mike" is very interesting to listen to when Kelly has him on...and since she has been an attorney really does ask things well....I find it very interesting listening to this guy...who BTW they conceal, of course, his identity.

Keeping in mind I listen carefully to 'the flow of language', words he's using ....etc. He seems very confident and calm. I also noticed that he doe not measure tightly, it's very free flowing for the most part. He is believable in other words.

522 posted on 05/01/2015 9:54:44 PM PDT by caww
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To: dragnet2

She’s pretty much protected so I wouldn’t count on anything more than pundits and others expressing outrage, as we’ve heard and seen, over how she has handled this.

She will of course play to those who vote for her and why she is sooo measured in what she says. She is not at all comfortable handling this situation...further she alone is not handling this, which I think irritates her often...she likes “control”.

I also believe there’s some racial and sextist issues going on for her among those who have positions which matter in this. These will never be made known to the public.....but when the mayor mentioned three woman handling this etc. that was indeed very revealing .....


523 posted on 05/01/2015 10:03:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: markomalley
Gray suffered a spinal injury and died after riding in a police transport van that made several stops.

Nothing about him having had the surgery before being arrested. Not surprised.

524 posted on 05/01/2015 11:04:52 PM PDT by wastedyears (I may be stupid, but at least I'm not Darwin Awards stupid.)
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To: wastedyears

That was debunked here on Freepers in the first post about it. Not a reliable source and later confirmed it was not true


525 posted on 05/02/2015 12:23:47 AM PDT by easternsky
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To: markomalley

To the people of Baltimore and the demonstrators across America: I heard your call for ‘No justice, no peace!!!’ Your peace is sincerely needed as I work to deliver justice on behalf of this young man. To those that are angry, hurt or have their own experiences of injustice at the hands of police officers I urge you to channel that energy peacefully as we prosecute (the law enforcement officers of the city in) this case I have heard your calls for ‘No justice, no peace,’ however your peace is sincerely needed as I work to deliver justice on behalf of Freddie Gray. Last but certainly not least, to the youth of the city. I will seek justice on your behalf. Dis is a moment. Dis is YOUR moment. Let’s insure we have peaceful and productive rallies that will develop structural and Syss..sys..systemic changes for generations to come. You’re at the forefront of this cause and as young people, OUR TIME IS NOW!!!!!!

526 posted on 05/02/2015 3:30:57 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: markomalley

Depraved Heart Murder Definition:

Where an individual under circumstances evincing a depraved indifference to human life, recklessly engaged in conduct which created a grave risk of death to another person, and thereby caused the death of another person.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, Benghazi.


527 posted on 05/02/2015 5:13:59 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: manc

I disagree. A prosecutors job is to prosecute. She is also an elected official. While I absolutely disagree with her politics, she has the same right to make political statements as any elected official. The question really is whether or not she is abusing her discretion and illegally prosecuting these individuals? I can only base my views on what I’ve seen, but so far I’d say there is at least enough to obtain an indictment. The charges are plausible and I’d say with the exception of the one murder charge, within reason. And the murder charge, while a reach, is possibly a much used prosecutorial tactic to charge high and convict low. Another likelihood is given that there are six individuals being prosecuted, by charging high you increase the chance of one or more turning states evidence.

So what is the problem? That police are being prosecuted? I resd plenty of articles where there are collective gasps of horror at police misconduct. Gunning down former Marines, tossing flashbangs in babies cribs. Yet we have a situation here where the police are being prosecuted for what is arguably a police killing and there are gasps of horror abounding.

You can’t have it both ways. If you want to hold police accountable to the same standard everyone else is, then you’re going to end up in situations where police are being prosecuted for doing bad things to bad actors.

Let me conclude by noting the extreme naivete regarding politics. Criminal justice is inherently political, from the decision as to what is a crime, who will be prosecuted, who the prosecutor is, who the judge is, to what the makeup of the jury (if any) will be. All crimes are political crimes, iIt’s silly to expect politics to somehow take a vacation at the courthouse steps.


528 posted on 05/02/2015 5:15:56 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Ted Cruz 2016)
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To: markomalley
The Baltimore prosecutor lost Geraldo.

He thinks she 'overcharged' to appease the racially-motivated mob.

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I posted that yesterday:

529 posted on 05/02/2015 5:37:02 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Jeff Head
It is sad to see the U.S. justice system being politically corrupted right before our eyes like this.

I got HBO a couple of years ago and started watching their older series, The Wire. It was about police and politics in Baltimore a couple of decades ago.

The events that have transpired in Baltimore now are like a script from The Wire.


530 posted on 05/02/2015 5:41:07 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: 2harddrive
Take it up with Mosby. I quoted her directly.
531 posted on 05/02/2015 5:57:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: ilovesarah2012
Gray was arrested April 12. This is May 1. Way too fast? A guy was arrested for having a legal knife and now he’s dead. Don’t you want to know what happened? I sure do.

Of COURSE we want to know what happened! We do not yet even know the details of his arrest. There are conflicting stories. And, yes, it's way too fast for these people to have run a thorough investigation. This was CLEARLY a politically-motivated indictment to appease the street mobs.

532 posted on 05/02/2015 6:11:27 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

PS: Here’s Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke saying the same thing I’m saying. This thing stinks!

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/05/01/clarke-freddie-gray-charges-duke-lacrosse-case-all-over-again/


533 posted on 05/02/2015 6:21:23 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: markomalley

I thought in cases where a prosecutor brings charges without a grand jury that a probable cause hearing before a judge several weeks later is required. I know that was true in the Duke Lacrosse Hoax when disbarred DA Nifong maliciously misled the grand jury, using a rigged “liar-victim” ID using only pics of Duke lacrosse players, to circumvent the defendants’ right to a hearing which would have exposed his perfidy before the primary election.


534 posted on 05/02/2015 6:22:48 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: don-o

Read somewhere else that he had back surgery recently.
That has been debunked.


Thanks for that clarification. Seemed odd that it wasn’t being discussed


535 posted on 05/02/2015 6:41:43 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: patriotspride; Conscience of a Conservative; kristinn

The rest of the story....Originally posted here from a sketchy blog named fourthestate.co. Within an hour and a half, FReeper Conscience of a Conservative and unpacked and demolished it.

Later, kristinn posted a FR Editorial that detailed the journalistic malpractice around the whole thing.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3284887/posts


536 posted on 05/02/2015 6:55:33 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

So you vote with the lynch mob eh?


537 posted on 05/02/2015 7:11:30 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: kjam22
Something went wrong but imo, there was no conspiracy to kill Freddy. Indifference, yes. That's why there is probable cause as to depraved heart homicide. If they are tried together, that would be unfortunate. The female is the one who kept looking back into the back of the van and did nothing. I wasn't there so I do not know how good or bad the driver was driving. I don't think I will be following this until the very end. There will be more and

I haven't gotten over that the feds killed Terri Schiavo - not the guardianship judge. It was the feds and RINOS. That's been ten years. Terri's dehydration imo was the first DHS exercise under Bush 43. What an ugly scene outside as well as inside where a woman was being tortured where her family had to stand two feet away from her. That was when the decline of this nation began.

Disabled murdered in 2005. All color of citizen killed by bad cops. Who's next?

538 posted on 05/02/2015 7:48:07 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Send Barry from the white house to the big house (never happen but I can dream.))
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To: 2harddrive; Admin Moderator

There was no reason to call her a slut. Media is observing FR. Any comment like that is does not put FR in a good light.


539 posted on 05/02/2015 8:09:51 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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