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BERLIN FALLS TO RUSSIANS, 70,000 GIVE UP; 1,000,000 SURRENDER IN ITALY AND AUSTRIA (5/3/45)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 5/3/45 | Cyrus L. Sulzberger, Virginia Lee Warren, John MacCormac, Lindesay Parrott, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 05/03/2015 5:44:17 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: history; milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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To: Tax-chick

Hmmm. Wouldn’t mind checking out the chicken ‘n noodles at Howies. Reasonable price!


21 posted on 05/03/2015 4:31:50 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
Wow, thanks for pointing me to the successful Abwehr penetration of the Dutch Resistance. The Germans referred to it as the England Game (Englandspiel).
22 posted on 05/03/2015 4:58:43 PM PDT by InMemoriam (Scrape the bottom! Vote for Rodham!)
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To: Larry Lucido
De Valera really let his hatred of the English affect his judgment. If he ever could, he can no longer claim ignorance of Nazism as the news has been screaming out of Germany what was going on in the camps.

It's not like Ireland found itself in the same sort of pickle Finland was in early in the war.

23 posted on 05/03/2015 5:00:05 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
De Valera really let his hatred of the English affect his judgment.

By ancestry I'm 1/4 Irish (Early/Kane/McDonald/Mead/Sheehan), and I was aware of Ireland's official neutrality during WW2, but lazily I've never bothered to learn the reason(s) for it. Ultimately, was it simply "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"?

24 posted on 05/03/2015 6:18:41 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: colorado tanker; Tax-chick; Hebrews 11:6; dfwgator

Because of the water obstacles, which the Germans augmented with deliberate flooding, Holland was easily defended with a minimum of troops.It was also a strategic dead-end. An attack into Holland would have required a commitment of resources out of proportion to any military benefit, and would not have served the purpose of directing military operations at the heart of Germany and the destruction of her armed forces.

Those were Ike’s orders and he was remarkably consistent in pursuing them.


25 posted on 05/03/2015 7:01:07 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: henkster

I suppose all that was a factor in Holland abandoning their traditional neutrality and enthusiastically joined NATO after the war.


26 posted on 05/03/2015 7:14:21 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: InMemoriam
Thanks, I knew about the problem but didn't know the Germans had put a name on it!

I read the Leo Marks book Between Silk and Cyanide and he was pretty worked up about it all those years later. He was in the Special Operations Executive and figured out the Dutch operation was compromised but couldn't get his superior to do anything about it. Seems to have been a combination of vanity, bureaucratic rivalry and refusal to admit a mistake.

27 posted on 05/04/2015 6:02:39 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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