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The Fall of Ramadi
Frontpage ^ | 5/18/15 | Christopher S. Carson

Posted on 05/18/2015 4:05:10 AM PDT by markomalley

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1 posted on 05/18/2015 4:05:11 AM PDT by markomalley
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I agree our dear leader is a feckless ally.

However, the author’s assertion that “Dugout Doug” MacArthur was the architect of the island hopping is wrong, if I remember right. Doug was determined to recapture the Philippines (that he had left in haste in’42) before going on to Japan. Nimitz and Halsey were already knocking on the door.

Oldplayer


2 posted on 05/18/2015 4:12:36 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: markomalley

Once there we needed to remain and bolster the government

But we should have never gone in. We had a reason to be in Afghanistan and as it appears, Pakistan. We should have bombed Al Qaida training camps in Egypt and Saudi. I backed Bush for going into Iraq but we should have taken care of the prime mission first....not finish daddy’s battle.


3 posted on 05/18/2015 4:14:49 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: markomalley
CENTCOM should be focusing on supporting a definable strategy to actually defeat the enemy, and one that is coordinated with the Iraqi government’s own fight for survival on the ground.

This implies that CENTCOM is actually interested in defeating ISIS, which I sincerely doubt.

4 posted on 05/18/2015 4:14:51 AM PDT by randita (...Our First Lady is a congenital liar - William Safire, 1996)
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To: markomalley
The headline should read...

"Obama's Forces Win a Great Victory in Ramadi Today"

5 posted on 05/18/2015 4:18:07 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: oldplayer

MacArthur was warned to move planes tanks etc after Pearl, so they wouldn’t be easy targets. He said it was a done deal. BOOM. He lost everything on the first attack wave.
The navy and the marines won the pacific war. MacArthur was the egotist who took the credit.


6 posted on 05/18/2015 4:19:06 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: markomalley

Who cares? Obama birdied that par 6!


7 posted on 05/18/2015 4:22:59 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: markomalley

Problem is.. there needs to a greater commitment than simply applying the minimal amount of force to manage the issue off the front pages.


8 posted on 05/18/2015 4:23:23 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The election of Obama was a hate crime.)
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To: markomalley

Fox News just announcing on 7:30am WSBA and WMAL newscasts that Ramadi has fallen to muzzie-troglodytes-from-hell, but that Baghdad isn’t in any danger, right now. Heh.


9 posted on 05/18/2015 4:33:19 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're just the bug.)
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To: markomalley

The correct answer to the question, “Knowing what we now know, would you have invaded Iraq?” is: “Knowing what we now know, I would not have pulled our troops out.”


10 posted on 05/18/2015 4:35:18 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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Saddam’s forces fought harder against the coalition’s finest than “free” Iraq’s forces are fighting against the j.v.

Individual v collective
declaration v king
constitution v state

Quran v individual, declaration, constitution, king, state, etc.

1400 yrs v upstart republics alert!

/purple fingers
/heads


11 posted on 05/18/2015 5:01:10 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: carriage_hill

Iran will defend Baghdad against ISIS Sunnis, with O’s blessing.


12 posted on 05/18/2015 5:02:22 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

And we’ll provide air support, to our Iranian “allies”?


13 posted on 05/18/2015 5:07:06 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're just the bug.)
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To: markomalley

Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi must be so ecstatic today!


14 posted on 05/18/2015 5:23:29 AM PDT by jacob allen
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To: cuban leaf
“Knowing what we now know, I would not have pulled our troops out.

Agreed. While all of the "knowledgeable observers" are wringing their hands about W entering into Iraq precious little is being said about the ruinous decision that grasped defeat from a hard won victory.

From Libya to Afghanistan to Yemen the region is enflamed and the people holding the torch and the gas can are our loyal Iranian allies.

The only stable countries across that broad crescent are Egypt and Israel who, not coincidently are on our leader' sh!t list.

15 posted on 05/18/2015 5:31:05 AM PDT by Pietro
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Absolutely. The surge won the war. The White House muslim gave it all away to the enemy.


16 posted on 05/18/2015 5:32:21 AM PDT by samtheman
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17 posted on 05/18/2015 5:40:44 AM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes)
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To: markomalley

That’s it: two strikes, two bombs, two positions—nothing else


10 bombs would have been enough to break the ISIS attacks and hold the city.

FWIW, 2 bombs isn’t even near a full ordnance load out on an F/A18, so the pilot flying the Hornet probably had to jettison the rest of his bombs over the ocean before heading back to the carrier to land.


18 posted on 05/18/2015 6:18:37 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: markomalley

Author is confused, thinking that soetoro wants to win against isis.


19 posted on 05/18/2015 6:32:25 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: markomalley
The Fall of Ramadi

Obama defeated by the Junior Varsity.

20 posted on 05/18/2015 6:47:06 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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