190 Republicans who voted to ignore 2/3 vote requirement for trade treaty (TPP)

6-18-15 | johnwk

[TexasFreeper2009]

it’s not a treaty.

[novemberslady]

It can't be a bad thing, after all John McCain is for it!

Along with the other conservatives Cruz and Rubio.

[Diogenesis]

Behold the Face of the GOP sellout of all America,
and the US Constitution for the empowerment of Obama Tyranny
and of globalists, on ObamaTRADE (passed today):

[Erik Latranyi]

Liberals...using commerce to undermine the Constitution since 1789.

[Blood of Tyrants]

It’s not a treaty because they don’t call it a treaty.

[scrabblehack]

Now the Iran letter suggested that “agreements” between foreign nations and the Congress (negotiated by the executive branch) are not all that rare, and that NAFTA was not the first. True??

Now, yes, “treaties” do require 2/3 of the Senate.

Do I understand correctly that, in order to repeal an “agreement,” that all it would take would be majority of both houses and assent of the President, or 2/3 of both houses; but to repeal a “treaty” it would require renegotiation with the foreign power?

[dragnet2]

Trump told us the GOP, Dems and Government are literally robbing America while economically gang banging what’s left of the American middle class.

It’s why the party groupies, party insiders, influence peddlers and ruling class did back flips when Trump gave his speech.

These people in D.C. have been bought and paid for.

[ZULU]

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and craps like a duck, ITS A DUCK!

[BlackAdderess]

If the European Union is the EU

Does that mean we are about to part of something with the acronym PU?!

[Republican1795.]

Looks like this important news just got sidelined by another convenient shooting report.

[Mr. N. Wolfe]

Yep. Wars are not really wars and treaties are not really treaties.

[TexasFreeper2009]

It's not a treaty it's an executive agreement (similar to an executive order) and can be repealed by the next president the same as any other executive order.

The Supreme Court ruled on the constitutionality of executive agreements in 1937.

[Karl Spooner]

And we have class of people in congress that does not appreciate our vote at all.

[Jan_Sobieski]

There must be big forces at work here causing these conservatives to go right along with a treaty that will be detrimental to United State sovereignty. My understanding is that we are in the midst of an zero-sum existential global currency war. Perhaps our leaders are desperate to maintain dollar hegemony. However I cannot help but think of this verse in the Bible...

Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree * , and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled .

[TexasFreeper2009]

A little bit of history on executive agreements like this:

Prior to 1940 the U.S. Senate had ratified 800 treaties and presidents had made 1,200 executive agreements; from 1940 to 1989, during World War II and the Cold War, presidents signed nearly 800 treaties but negotiated more than 13,000 executive agreements.

Everyone needs to just calm the heck down about all this. You are being spun by Trumps minions.

[Breto]

Screw the feckless GOP

[sauropod]

I’m proud of my rep, Andy Harris. He voted “no” today.

[Defiant]

A majority cannot vote away the constitutional right of the 1/3 to nix a treaty. If so, we could pass a whole bunch of amendments anytime we want.

[Fiddlstix]

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