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To: stevie_d_64

I personally hate it when someone puts blame on the victim. It was the gunman’s fault.. in its entirely... If someone wants to put “partial” blame (a smaller %) on the room mate who knew this guy was planning this attack and he did nothing/said nothing.. that seems fair. But to suggest a person’s political opinion caused their murder is just wrong. IMHO.


4 posted on 06/20/2015 4:31:50 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree

It depends. Sometimes, a “victim” was doing something mind-blowingly stupid with an obviously high risk of serious harm, like that banker who was shooting up heroin with a prostitute who advertised herself as dangerously insane. “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.”


5 posted on 06/20/2015 4:37:16 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You know I don't find this stuff amusing anymore.)
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To: momtothree

You are missing the point...

Charles pointed out that a measure (bill) proposed in S.C.’s legislative body, that would have tweek’d the existing law to allow no penalty to carry a concealed firearm into a church in S.C. was given a “nay” vote by this pastor, that just also happens to be a S.C. state Senator...

The pastor did not have an “opinion”m he was elected to a state office to debate, and vote on measures, bills, in the conducting of state business...

It IS NOT implying that if someone in that room had had a firearm would have stopped the massacre...That is not part of the overall problem here...


8 posted on 06/20/2015 4:49:59 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: momtothree

“I personally hate it when someone puts blame on the victim.”

You can’t blame the victims but you can put the blame squarely on the shoulder of the preacher for for the size of the massacre due to the fact that he PREVENTED anyone from having the legal right to bring a gun into his church.

In essence, he made them helpless targets of such an assassination when they legally could have protected themselves.


19 posted on 06/20/2015 6:00:48 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: momtothree

Given that im unaware of AME churches being targets like temples or post offices

I can see why nobody carried

Funny though how blacks have these so important rights they should know they need

And ignore it

My church which is around 5% black

Has congregants armed


26 posted on 06/20/2015 6:53:47 AM PDT by wardaddy (#jon snow mattered)
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To: momtothree

Victims sometimes cause their own situation or assist in it.

Non seat belt or non motorcycle helmet wearers are constantly blamed by the nanny state for their demise. Why can’t we on the right, make similar accusations.

Politically it’s a one way street in this country.....the left has carte blanche to speak their minds and when the rights of center folks say something they are nationally vilified.

We better be ready to stick to our GUNS before we lose them.


31 posted on 06/20/2015 9:41:39 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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