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1 posted on 07/07/2015 8:28:42 AM PDT by Reddy
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Good article describing the replacement of traditional marriage with civil contracts.

Let the homosexuals have civil contracts. We stand for traditional marriage as between one man and one woman.


2 posted on 07/07/2015 8:30:14 AM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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(4) It ignores what’s best for children.

Like the government knows what is best for children.

3 posted on 07/07/2015 8:30:24 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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It’s a scam by the dim-witted libertarians. They give us gay marriage THEN they tell us that “government should get out of the marriage business”, which it never will.

It was a big bait-and-switch by the pothead wing of the Republican party.


4 posted on 07/07/2015 8:31:33 AM PDT by Fido969
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Only one reason is necessary to state -

IT’S NOT ABOUT “GAY MARRIAGE”!

It’s about criminalizing Christianity, and they’ll find another “issue” if this one doesn’t work.


5 posted on 07/07/2015 8:32:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Simplify. There is a public interest in recording legal contracts. Define a type of legal contract that includes certain elements that we now accord only to marriage. County clerk records the contract without having to morally sign up for same sex unions. Children cannot sign legal documents. Then, go to a church if you want a religious ceremony. Done.


6 posted on 07/07/2015 8:34:00 AM PDT by Pecos (What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.)
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No offense to John, but the new status quo already does all the harm he mentions. We have to act to distinguish between the government’s role in contract law and the religious role of marriage. Leave marriage to the church and let the government deal with tax breaks, hospital visits and other contractual roles. The idea that we undo what’s been done by separating marriage and civil unions is frankly 5 years too late. The court has spoken so we mush re-write the rules and take it back to the court to settle the next round. Removing the religious ceremony of marriage from government is the only remaining option. It’s up to states to remake their laws and remove marriage from government lexicon all together.


7 posted on 07/07/2015 8:36:26 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Reddy; 185JHP; 230FMJ; AKA Elena; APatientMan; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; Alexander Rubin; ...
Required reading here for all the silly libertarians who want to surrender on the most basic of conservative values....

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8 posted on 07/07/2015 8:37:52 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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Saw this one coming, which is the point of the article:

It would overburden courts and side-step legal protections for children and abandoned spouses, replacing them with court ordered damages, penalties and state-coerced action.

Nope. The courts would be freed by contract, though it is possible Obama coukd decree “If you like your pre-nup, you can....”


13 posted on 07/07/2015 8:48:04 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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This article is an attempt at slamming the barn door shut after the horse has run out.

Heterosexual marriage in the US is dying. In a generation it’ll be a relative rarity. Word has gotten around and few men will consent to it.


15 posted on 07/07/2015 8:52:39 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves and fools.)
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To those who object to returning marriage to the private sphere: if you concerns are so valid, why have you been so silent as the rate of illegitimacy among black children now is in excess of 70%? Where were you when communes allowed people to produce feral children?

We don’t worry a bit today that black babies who are born to a single mother will lack for rights of inheritance or medical direction.

The complaints just prove to me that too many social conservatives love big government. I pray that they begin to see that big government is now hostile to the very values they seek to preserve. In fact they want to use government just like liberals do— to impose values on citizens. Let conservatives eschew using government as a proxy for religion.


23 posted on 07/07/2015 9:24:00 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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Marriage is a church sacrament. The government should never have become involved. Follow the money.


37 posted on 07/07/2015 10:24:32 AM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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I believe it is time for the church to stop acting as an agent of the state. If a man and a woman want to make their vows to one another in the context of their faith, they should do so in the church. If 2 people (or soon more...) want to make their vows to each other in the context of a government recognized “contract”, then they can do that in the form of a civil union/contract/marriage or whatever you want to call it. No reason why a couple couldn’t do both a public wedding in a church and then take the steps to certify that to the government as well.

This does not depend on a change in law as this author implies. It depends on a change in the church.


42 posted on 07/07/2015 10:37:16 AM PDT by rightsmart
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