Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Store owner refuses to sell guns to Muslims
WNYT ^ | 7/31/15 | Samantha DiMascio

Posted on 07/31/2015 7:31:54 PM PDT by markomalley

ST. JOHNSVILLE - It's a powerful, but polarizing point of view. The owner of J.J.'s Sporting Goods announced he will no longer sell guns to Muslims.

The decision is getting mixed reaction both on social media and within the small, tight-knit community of St. Johnsville.

John Swartz says after the attack at the recruiting station in Tennessee, he can't in good conscience sell guns to Muslims.

Swartz said his logic mainly roots from fear of not being able to tell the difference between a radical Muslim and a law abiding citizen. He said that leaves him with little choice, but to put a policy in place.

"It has nothing to do with the individual or the entire community, but I can’t tell the difference. So right now I have very little choice because of my own conscience," said Swartz.

The business owner announced his policy in a post on his store's Facebook page.

"My Facebook post, I thought about this and I said well, there's only one organization that is advocating for the killing of Americans, trying to get local homegrown terrorists, and somewhat succeeding. They're not Canadians. They're not French. They're Muslims," said Swartz.

He wrote the post about a week ago. Since then he's backtracked a bit, saying he wouldn't sell guns to anyone he doesn't feel comfortable with, no matter who they are.

“I'm not trying to be racist. I have to look at who the enemy is and just say that I'm sorry, but this is kind of brought on by themselves," said Swartz.

The Facebook post is the talk of the community with mixed reaction. Bob Vosburgh served in Vietnam. He said he backs any dealer that takes the same approach.

"That really hurts us as service member. They're piling Marines up like cordwood, you know? I've got a bad taste in my mouth over that. I'm sorry it has to be that way because I'm sure there are good ones, but until we get a grip on them the sale has to stop to all of them," said Vosburgh.

Alex Countryman has lived in the village his entire life and said he's disgusted by the racism.

"As a member of the community, as a New Yorker and as an American, I'm embarrassed by the obvious Islamaphobia," said Countryman.

He said he’s embarrassed that people harbor negative feelings based on the religion of others.

As of Thursday night, Swartz stands by his decision.

"I have to make a policy and that's what my policy is," he said.

Swatrz said he follows the Constitution. So if the government compels him to reverse his decision he will obey, but that also means he may end up selling the business.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; islamofascism; muzziefreezone; newyork
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last

1 posted on 07/31/2015 7:31:54 PM PDT by markomalley
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: markomalley

That’s OK ‘Brobama’ is buying for them whith our tax dollars!


2 posted on 07/31/2015 7:35:20 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

The store owner is doing the responsible thing.


3 posted on 07/31/2015 7:36:12 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

CAIR is suing.


4 posted on 07/31/2015 7:37:00 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

So to brain-dead libtards Muslim is a race? Islamophobia implies an irrational fear of Islam. Such a fear is NOT irrational. The moose limbs have given us every reason to fear their extreme religion. It is the lunatic left that has an irrational love of the blood thirsty satanic death cult known as Islam. Birds of a feather flock together.


5 posted on 07/31/2015 7:39:12 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

So uh, are liberals saying that guns are ok if they are purchased by muslims?


6 posted on 07/31/2015 7:42:37 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

This is an interesting legal situation.

Under most circumstances, business that provide “public accommodations”, goods and services, cannot legally discriminate.

However, there are some limits to this. For example, a pharmacist cannot be compelled to provide narcotics to someone he even suspects could be an illegal user. In this case, a gun store owner cannot be compelled, and is actually forbidden, from selling a gun to any number of prohibited persons, or if he *suspects* there *might* be an illegal use of the gun. Or that the buyer is a “straw buyer”.


7 posted on 07/31/2015 7:43:25 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley
He said he’s embarrassed that people harbor negative feelings based on the religion of others.

Would he harbor negative feelings towards someone that advocated the extermination of the Jews? How about if they made it a part of their religion?

Kinda like muslims...

8 posted on 07/31/2015 7:44:40 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley
simply state that all the guns in his shop are greased with pig fat and he simply doesn't want to offend the delicate sensibilities of the goathumpers...
9 posted on 07/31/2015 7:55:09 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

Good let’s hope this trend spreads to every gun store.


10 posted on 07/31/2015 7:56:09 PM PDT by gwgn02
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

Hey muzzies should be able to buy huntin guns too. >major sarc


11 posted on 07/31/2015 8:00:46 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

Guess they’ll have to keep on using knives.


12 posted on 07/31/2015 8:03:07 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Islam is a cancer on civilization.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

We had a grocer that would not honor our ration stamps during WW II, because we had a German name. My dad joined the USMC during WW I. He was also born here. Not everyone is a threat just because of their origin. Muslims are people too, its a small percentage that is causing the trouble.

The ones I have met over the last 2 decades were decent folk, they intermarried and raised good Americans, not the bomb making ones. They want the American dream and most are employed in professional jobs that required a lot of studying. If one of their kids were like the jihadists, they’d turn them in. WW II we had Germans sabotaging and spying, but they didn’t represent the entire German American population. The ones who were suspected were interned in special camps, LOL, built by the Democrat controlled administration. LOL, the only internment camps we had were those built under the Democrats? (Not Bush and Cheney) Surely some of you have Muslim friends, who fit in like anyone else. I think mine are Liberal Muslims. My best man at a Christian wedding was an Arab.


13 posted on 07/31/2015 8:04:30 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (2016 The RNC better come up with a Winner this time. Run some one like Cruz and Go for Broke!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bringbackthedraft
We had a grocer that would not honor our ration stamps during WW II, because we had a German name. My dad joined the USMC during WW I. He was also born here. Not everyone is a threat just because of their origin. Muslims are people too, its a small percentage that is causing the trouble.

The ones I have met over the last 2 decades were decent folk, they intermarried and raised good Americans, not the bomb making ones. They want the American dream and most are employed in professional jobs that required a lot of studying. If one of their kids were like the jihadists, they’d turn them in. WW II we had Germans sabotaging and spying, but they didn’t represent the entire German American population. The ones who were suspected were interned in special camps, LOL, built by the Democrat controlled administration. LOL, the only internment camps we had were those built under the Democrats? (Not Bush and Cheney) Surely some of you have Muslim friends, who fit in like anyone else. I think mine are Liberal Muslims. My best man at a Christian wedding was an Arab.

Nice try, but no dice. There is no parity with the Nazi Party versus the non-Party Germans in WWII - the analogy is false. There's no such thing as a moderate Muslim. There are only overt, and covert, Muslims. Their entire religion teaches them that non-Muslims must be made into slaves or killed - no exceptions. Islam also teaches that they are allowed to lie and misrepresent themselves and their religion to promote the goals of Islam, especially Jihad.

You don't have any Muslim friends. You think you do, but you don't. They are merely biding their time until you are put into yout proper place. THAT is Islam, and there's NO Muslim who will disagree with it in public (that I've ever heard of, at least). Those "friends" of yours go to the mosque and listen, repeatedly and without change, every week, every month, every year, their whole lives that you and people like you are lower than animals and are doomed to death. That's just a simple fact. And if any Muslim SHOULD disagree with it openly, the penalty for them is death.

There's been more than enough innocent blood shed by these bastards that you really have no excuse. Wake the hell up.

14 posted on 07/31/2015 8:16:58 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Bringbackthedraft

Islam is Islam there are no modifiers.


15 posted on 07/31/2015 8:23:44 PM PDT by gwgn02
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: markomalley
Well, if the background check communication is somehow interrupted, then the gun cannot be transferred. For example, the buyer fills out the 4473 and the shop owner goes to the terminal to enter the info for a background check. If, for whatever reason, the terminal cannot connect to or get a "good to go" response...no sale.
There is no reason to call attention to yourself. Those dialup lines are often faulty and its impossible to get clearance if it does not work.
16 posted on 07/31/2015 8:27:39 PM PDT by TxAg1981
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

Raghead isn’t a race. It’s a demonic death cult that gets hot at the prospect of murdering ..... anybody.


17 posted on 07/31/2015 8:29:21 PM PDT by LouAvul (There is no more GOP. There is RAT, and RAT lite.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Talisker

LOL, More hate!!!! Obviously you don’t have any Muslim friends to compare them to. Muslims didn’t kill 50 million Christians in 39-45, the so called God Fearing Christians did a fine job without their help. OMG, the one race in the world who has done more to kill themselves off are the white Christians. My muslim friends have always treated me well. There are only 2 kinds of people in this world, those who are good and those who are evil and they cover all cultures, religions and races. Sometimes its difficult to see the difference between the good and evil. It all depends on which side thinks they are good, because evil people in their minds think they’re good. Wake up in Hell? Your already in it. Life is what it is, its not a rehearsal, so make the best of it.


18 posted on 07/31/2015 8:32:11 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (2016 The RNC better come up with a Winner this time. Run some one like Cruz and Go for Broke!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: SkyDancer

This one seems to be in NY. One being sued so far in central Florida.


19 posted on 07/31/2015 9:02:57 PM PDT by libbylu
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SkyDancer

CAIR is suing.

_____________
He may be contacted shortly. Now there are two store owners saying the same thing. The one in Florida is being sued by CAIR.

This store owner’s name is John Swartz from NY

http://wnyt.com/article/stories/s3866358.shtml

CAIR is suing this store owner whose name is Andy Hallinan from Florida.

‘Muslim-free’ Florida gun store sued (by CAIR)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3318330/posts


20 posted on 07/31/2015 9:08:51 PM PDT by Whenifhow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-29 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson