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1 posted on 08/09/2015 12:15:01 AM PDT by CutePuppy
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From Trump Was For Socialized Medicine Before He Was, Sort Of, Against It - IBD, by John Merline, 2015 August 07

In the Republican debate on Thursday, Brett Baier asked Donald Trump about his past statements on health care. "Now, 15 years ago, you called yourself a liberal on health care. You were for a single-payer system, a Canadian-style system. Why were you for that then and why aren't you for it now?"

Baier is right on the facts. In Trump's 2000 book The America We Deserve, he wrote that "The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than America. ... We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing."

Trumps answer to Baier's question should trouble anyone who believes in free market health care reforms.

"As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you're talking about, here."

Really? Let's take these claims one at a time.

First, as IBD has frequently detailed, single payer doesn't work in Canada, unless you consider extreme wait times, and the fact that Canadians often come to the U.S. to get needed care, working. One study found that roughly 41,000 leave Canada in a given year for needed health care.

Patients in Scotland, too, suffer from chronic delays. The Sunday Herald, for example, reported earlier this year that "Scotland's health boards are seeing delays of at least three times the target (emergency room) waiting times of four hours — and one health board recorded a wait of over 24 hours."

If you have cancer, Scotland's single payer definitely doesn't work "incredibly well." As Forbes Avik Roy points out, cancer survival rates in the U.S. are 40% higher than in Scotland.

And Trump's last point that single payer could have worked in the United States "in a different age" makes no sense whatsoever, since Trump supported single payer just 15 years ago.

Does he mean to say that it would have worked in 2000, but won't work in 2015? If so, how come? ..... < snip >

2 posted on 08/09/2015 12:19:52 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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Did she also talk about her losing senate campaign, her stint as a McCain advisor, her unsuccessful helming of that tech giant and her shifting positions on major issues?


3 posted on 08/09/2015 12:20:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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She appears to be running as VP attack dog and so far is showing that she would kick Dem butts in the VP debate.

A+ at that.

Clearly she won’t be the nominee.


5 posted on 08/09/2015 12:25:40 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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Implosion 6, 5.5, 5, 4.5, 4...


6 posted on 08/09/2015 12:26:56 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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She lost to Boxer, why would anyone think she would defeat Hellary? Who wants to take that chance with all that is at stake?


16 posted on 08/09/2015 12:51:06 AM PDT by proust (Hillary has dropped out of more races than Trump.)
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I hope Trump starts asking all the others if they’ll support him if he gets the nomination.

Carly has already said she stands with Kelly. If that ain’t sucking up and being exactly what Trump is talking about, I don’t know what is.


19 posted on 08/09/2015 12:52:57 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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Not impressed with her in terms of presidential candidates.


21 posted on 08/09/2015 12:54:48 AM PDT by toddausauras ( Leftplosion.)
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Sen Cruz has been the only candidate fighting the DC cartel since his senate victory. Where has icarly been?


27 posted on 08/09/2015 1:29:32 AM PDT by RginTN
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Republicans opened their debate season Thursday in Cleveland and produced the beginning of the beginning for a Carly Fiorina surge and the beginning of the end for a Donald Trump campaign.

This looks like more wishful thinking.

Those who are afraid of Trump keep grabbing at straws and wanting him to go away.

Donald Trump is exactly the leadership this country needs to become great again.

37 posted on 08/09/2015 2:59:46 AM PDT by olezip
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She’s a female and I never had no luck with females so I will ignore Truth to try to make some females like me......


41 posted on 08/09/2015 4:29:38 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Words do not match this gals actions. Watch out, she is dangerous and in my opinion, incompetent.


42 posted on 08/09/2015 4:33:40 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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TRUMP creates wealth;
CARLY: creates poverty.

During Carly’s tenure at HP, the stock lost HALF its value.
Investors lost BILLIONS.

They fired her, the stock went up.

So, TO RECAP... She got a job through affirmative action, got fired, and she has ovaries...
Why should she be president?
isn’t one affirmative-action president enough?


43 posted on 08/09/2015 4:35:58 AM PDT by richardskeet
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Carly Fiorina stood with Republican Establishment AGAINST CRUZ in 2013 government shutdown

http://therightscoop.com/carly-fiorina-stood-with-republican-establishment-against-cruz-in-2013-government-shutdown/


48 posted on 08/09/2015 5:11:53 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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As the poll front-runner, Trump had the most to lose in Cleveland. And he did.

Show me the poll, IBD. Otherwise consider yourself another just another nose-honking passenger in the MSM clown car.

52 posted on 08/09/2015 5:25:21 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Cruz or Lose 2016)
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I don’t understand why so many Freepers give Trump a complete pass on his leftist past, but will not do the same for Fiorina. Likely, neither would govern as a conservative. Let’s move on and get behind Ted Cruz, without question, the best candidate of all.


53 posted on 08/09/2015 5:28:50 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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there is a long time to go and Carly lacks the fuel to propel the vehicle

Carly doesn’t have a natural constituency unlike Sarah Palin or that congress woman from minnesota? or was it wisconsin?

Flash in the pan comes to mind except there was no flash, merely an in the pan


54 posted on 08/09/2015 5:32:55 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, .. Iran deal & holocaust: Obama's batting clean up for Adolph Hitler)
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He doesn’t care about Carley. It’s all about that old white woman—Jeb


57 posted on 08/09/2015 5:39:23 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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