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Chinese Devaluation Extends To 3rd Day - Yuan Hits 4 Year Low, Japan Escalates Currency Race
Zerohedge ^ | 8-12-2015 | Durden

Posted on 08/12/2015 9:03:30 PM PDT by tcrlaf

The "one-off" adjustment has now reached its 3rd day as The PBOC has now devalued the Yuan fix by 4.65% back to July 2011 lows.

The PBOC seeks to reassure... -CHINA PBOC SAYS YUAN REMAINS STRONG CURRENCY IN LONG-TERM -PBOC SAYS THERE IS DEMAND FOR DEVALUATION OF YUAN VS USD -PBOC CHANGE OF YUAN MECHANISM RELATED TO JULY CREDIT: ZHANG -PBOC SAYS YUAN CHANGE IS BENEFICIAL TO LONG TERM STABILITY -PBOC SAYS YUAN EXCHANGE RATE ADJUSTMENT ALMOST COMPLETED *YUAN RATE ADJUSTMENT POSITIVE TO CONFIDENCE IN YUAN: PBOC'S YI *NEW YUAN MECHANISM `POSITIVE' TO INTERNATIONALIZATION: PBOC YI *PBOC SAYS NO BASIS FOR YUAN'S CONSTANT DEVALUATION: ZHANG

Even before this evening's date with debasement history, Japan felt the need to step up the currency war rhetoric. Following disappointing Machine Orders data, Abe advisors Hamada warned that "Japan can offset Yuan devaluation by monetary easing," and so the race to the bottom escalates. China has its own problems as BofAML's leading economic indicator showed "the foundation for a growth recovery is not solid, facing more downward pressure," and while confusion reigns over why The PBOC would intervene at the close to strengthen the Yuan last night, the reality is the commitment isn’t to a devaluation for China’s exports, but undoubtedly its actions are directed toward trying to keep the wholesale finance interfaces somewhat orderly. Finally, China’s devaluation couldn’t come at a worse time for Argentina - about a quarter of the country’s $33.7 billion of foreign reserves are now denominated in yuan, which suffered its biggest loss since 1994 on Tuesday.

Having devalued the (onshore) Yuan fix by 3.5% in the last 2 days, China did it again... shifting Yuan to 4 year lows

-CHINA SETS YUAN REFERENCE RATE AT 6.4010 AGAINST U.S. DOLLAR

(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...


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Is the plan to send the U.S. Dollar sky-high, into orbit, and then crash it??

There is NO WAY, no matter how desperately the FED wants to raise rates, (so Democrats can campaign on The Great Economic Recovery!!") that they can do it under these conditions, it seems.

1 posted on 08/12/2015 9:03:30 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

I wonder the effect raising rates would have on the national debt. Admittedly I am not an expert on how the interest portion of that debt works.


2 posted on 08/12/2015 9:05:46 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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China’s devaluation couldn’t come at a worse time for Argentina - about a quarter of the country’s $33.7 billion of foreign reserves are now denominated in yuan, which suffered its biggest loss since 1994 on Tuesday

An occasion for regime change in Argentina, one would hope.

3 posted on 08/12/2015 9:06:46 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Higher interest rates make debt grow exponentially.

L


4 posted on 08/12/2015 9:07:52 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: tcrlaf; All
The dollar IS going sky high. China and all the countries in the world are RAPIDLY devaluing their currencies. Only Trump is talking about this and against China.

China is waging a currency war against the USA:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-the-dollars-rise-led-to-the-yuan-devaluation-2015-08-11

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/china-could-trigger-the-biggest-financial-rout-since-2008-2015-08-12?mod=MW_story_top_stories

Look at the U.S. Dollar skyrocketing against all other currencies:


5 posted on 08/12/2015 9:08:51 PM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade = millions more 3rd world socialist immigrats)
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To: Lurker

That’s what I thought, unless the rate is locked in for a long time. Still, we keep raising the debt so the new debt would definitely be at the higher rate. That could get very bad very fast.


6 posted on 08/12/2015 9:10:52 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: tcrlaf

This is making Trump’s statements re Chinese currency manipulation look very prescient!

It’s like he has a crystal ball or something :-)


7 posted on 08/12/2015 9:12:00 PM PDT by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I’m afraid it’s already very bad.

Good luck to you.


8 posted on 08/12/2015 9:12:02 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Democrat_media

It has long bee said that a westerner cannot think like the Chinese do. That may be true, but the coming (or aleady here) Economic War with China has been talked about for the last several years.

IMO, China has ONE YEAR LEFT to complete it’s expansion initiatives, before America has real leadership again.

The combination of a weakening economy, and Donald Trump’s anti-China bluster is probably pushing them to move to Economic War.

It’s LONG been said that China could single-handedly crash the US Economy by driving the Dollar sky-high, the uncoupling from it, sending the USD into freefall.

Then they start selling the treasuries.

Game over...
Welcome to Zimbabwe/Weimar Republic style-inflation, American Idiocracy-Style.
While we’re wallowing in the economic riots, they consolidate the China Seas.


9 posted on 08/12/2015 9:14:20 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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Oh absolutely it is already bad. Just saying, it will be even sores. That must be part of the motive to keep the rates where they are. They can spend more.


10 posted on 08/12/2015 9:14:37 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: tcrlaf

So call me crazy but China deliberately starts devaluing its currency and all of a sudden something goes boom in a major Chinese port city. Yeah, probably just a coincidence.


11 posted on 08/12/2015 9:16:19 PM PDT by jimjohn (You don't get the kind of government you want, or the kind you need. You get the kind you deserve.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Pretty much.

As I said, good luck to you.

L


12 posted on 08/12/2015 9:17:11 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: jimjohn

wow....I didn’t think of that.


13 posted on 08/12/2015 9:22:25 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: tcrlaf

My takeaway from this is that the Chinese government is losing all control of the economy and a severe depression in China will be unavoidable.

Oil prices are low now, and they will continue to go down. Oil under $40/bbl is likely later this year.


14 posted on 08/12/2015 9:27:46 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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We’re all in deep trouble.


15 posted on 08/12/2015 9:29:24 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

No, China is in deep trouble if their economy tanks’ along with countries whose budgets are based on much higher oil prices.


16 posted on 08/12/2015 9:34:16 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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“It has long bee said that a westerner cannot think like the Chinese do”

I'm not Asian but imo Asians especially China are much smarter in trade the USA has been. the politicians in the USA are owned and bought and paid for you know what. That's why I support Trump

All the Asian countries are devaluing their currencies. The USA doing nothing about it.

17 posted on 08/12/2015 9:36:55 PM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade = an increase in millions more 3rd world socialist immigrants to USA)
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To: SeaHawkFan

So where does that leave us? It seems to me that we’re headed for big trouble. It’s really getting crazier it seems.


18 posted on 08/12/2015 9:40:40 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Bobalu

Gypsies have crystal balls.
Looks like SOS ‘M. Ed’ Kerry has one too. He said if we didn’t stop being so difficult over giving insane Muslims nuclear bombs, our dollar might no longer be the world’s currency reserve.
And if our insane federales can’t continue printing the Benjamins as fast as possible, we’re skarewed.


19 posted on 08/12/2015 9:44:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: tcrlaf

Dollar Bubble Set To Burst As China Devalues Yuan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoe5WVJxnCI

Andy Hoffman-Something Gigantic & Horrible Happening This Year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTvczO4Bo60


20 posted on 08/12/2015 9:45:01 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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