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To: Steelfish
Trump needs to show specifically how he plans to reverse all this. Simply saying he will command the tides to recede won’t do. That’s stuff for the illiterati. We need to know how?

I am not a fan of Trump for all manner of reasons, but this is a pretty specific plan he has released - and many of the components don't hinge on those court decisions you have outlined.

A big first step is keeping illegals from pouring in and he addresses this. Another huge step is deporting the illegals here and he speaks to that as well. Just a commitment to shutting down the border and deporting those here illegally will go a long way to reducing birthright citizenship, the drain on our medical services, the costs of educating non citizens, etc.

I criticize Trump all the time, but what other candidates are this bold and specific on the issue of immigration? Also, he even talks about how Mexico will pay the costs of the border wall. Something many of us, including myself, have chided him for not explaining how he would accomplish it. Well, he speaks of increasing fees on border crossing and Visa's among other things, so he is not relying on tariffs that are unlikely to make it through Congress.

I still support Cruz and think, in the end, he is far more conservative and electable than Trump, but this immigration plan is......well, fantastic. It's not just that I agree with it, it's that he isn't afraid to effectively say "yes, deport all illegals". Politicians have been afraid to say that for generations, and here is a guy willing to say it. Even if you don't like Trump, his willingness to touch this immigration 3rd rail might encourage other GOP candidates to do the same.

51 posted on 08/16/2015 10:26:32 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
Might encourage other politicians to say the same?

No politician has even said the word deport. And if any say it now are they just saying it now cause they saw that Trump is having success with it and to negate Trump? Yes.

It's too late. they've all had chance to say. if they say it not it's just for political expediency and we ‘ll see them for what they are trying to do.

Politicians don't say the things Trump is saying . Ask yourself why? Is it because politicians are beholden to big donors and lobbyists? Yes.

55 posted on 08/16/2015 10:30:46 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade = an increase in millions more 3rd world socialist immigrants to USA)
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To: Longbow1969
Might encourage other politicians to say the same?

No politician has even said the word deport. And if any say it now are they just saying it now cause they saw that Trump is having success with it and to negate Trump? Yes.

It's too late. they've all had chance to say. if they say it now it's just for political expediency and we ‘ll see them for what they are trying to do.

Politicians don't say the things Trump is saying . Ask yourself why? Is it because politicians are beholden to big donors and lobbyists? Yes.

60 posted on 08/16/2015 10:34:04 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade = an increase in millions more 3rd world socialist immigrants to USA)
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To: Longbow1969

I agree with all you wrote. The tide is against establishment politicians with the exception of Cruz. Jeb Bush, Rubio, Kasich, Scott Brown, etc have all seen their numbers drop and rightly so.

At the end of the day however specifics matter. It’s going to come up in the debates, in opposition ads, Throwing out generalities on how to move mountains won’t cut it.


62 posted on 08/16/2015 10:35:25 AM PDT by Steelfish
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