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To: fwdude; Slyfox
Uh... Trump would foist this on us as well. He's one of the "move on from gay marriage" crowd.

You know, if we conservatives EVER hope to reverse the slide of this country, we need to have enough elected officials in key places to be able to pass legislation that we like (or stop legislation that we don't).

What you don't understand is that IMMIGRATION is THE key issue of this or any election. This election is as important as the one in 1860, and for substantially the same reason - i.e. it will answer whether this nation to continue on as before, or not.

You see, if the Dems win, or the wrong Republican does, then we get amnesty and the Dems get 30 million new voters in a short period of time. After that, AND FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES, the Dems win on EVERY issue: they win on taxes, gun control, national defense, the environment, abortion, foreign relations, who gets appointed to the federal courts...AND ON SOCIAL ISSUES LIKE MARRIAGE AND RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.

IOW, if the Dems win or the wrong Republican does, then no other issues matter, now and forever, because we will lose on every one of them. They have been working toward this for literally the last 50 years, since Ted Kennedy proposed the 1965 immigration act and it got jammed through and signed by LBJ. Oh, and so far the ONLY candidate to come out 100% in favor of stopping ALL new illegal immigrants, and sending as many illegals out as possible, stopping anchor babies, etc., etc. is the same Donald Trump that you apparently have utter contempt for...and, BTW, he's the same Donald Trump who is polling decently among Dems and Indies, unlike every Republican.

So keep it up, you may help destroy the only apparent hope that this country has to survive, because all the rest (with the possible exception of Cruz) are pretty much just fine with the status quo, or are unelectable, or both.

FYI, if you don't believe me about the importance of immigration, then read Coulter's "Adios America." It is EXTREMELY eye-opening and, whether you like/respect her at all, is so full of facts that the notes take about 50% as much space as the text.

19 posted on 09/02/2015 3:16:52 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr

Why not just elect a solid conservative tough on the breaking of immigration laws AND on all the other “social” issues? These are not neglected, even over a few election cycles, without a serious cost.


20 posted on 09/02/2015 3:29:01 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Ancesthntr; fwdude

Go to my profile page and look at my other posts if you think in the least that I do not “understand.”


21 posted on 09/02/2015 3:31:23 PM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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To: Ancesthntr
Cutting to the chase; we must restore what is left of the rule of law in America, and there may be one chance with little time left to do it. So,indeed, we must choose carefully what we do next. There are more that political answers involved but our next President MUST have both the courage and skill to pull it off. The Illegal population can be removed and returned again legally (per Trump). The trick is to do so without destroying completely the remnants of our economy. First: Do build a wall over The 1,000 miles it will do the most good, modeled on the Israeli example. Provide the personnel to man it and operate the electronic barriers elsewhere,as in:Warning Shots Will Not Be Fired.
Second: After border control, institute a one year moratorium on visas for Latin countries with rare exception. Third:Notify ALL employers, with copy care,the US CHAMBER OF COMMERCE That E-Verify will be enforced.
Fourth: Having established a “Fast Track” system for full time on book working illegals; implement this on a rolling time line which tries not to put the employer out of business while returning the employee as a legal resident,in some form.
Fifth:The remaining illegal population on welfare must be notified they have a specific period of time to return to their country of former residence to await LEGAL reentry for
an e-verified offer of employment; OR all welfare funds will be cut off.
Could this work? I think yes,and yes there would be pure hell to pay. Wild? Utopian? If not this than what? Is there a kinder and gentler way in which all Americans and the President we elect can come up with a plan that will not endanger our order and peace and remove an irreplaceable piece of our hearts? Of course not. What could have been done an easier way 30 years ago, will now take all the courage and determination we can find. Much can be done by existing law. Some by executive order,and God willing MOST by legislation. We may have only one more chance to get this right through our political system. Choose carefully. Government by Cartel awaits in the wings.
22 posted on 09/02/2015 7:29:23 PM PDT by windhover (windhover)
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