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Donald Trump’s mixed gun platform
Hot Air.com ^ | September 19, 2015 | TAYLOR MILLARD

Posted on 09/19/2015 3:14:52 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/19/2015 3:14:52 PM PDT by Kaslin
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But for those who are violent, a danger to themselves or others, we need to get them off the street before they can terrorize our communities. This is just common sense.

You have an idea what this is? Here's a hint: Jimmy Carter got rid of them.

2 posted on 09/19/2015 3:23:42 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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I notice he doesn't give alternatives to putting people in jail with mandatory sentences. So is his solution to execute them?

Nor does he give alternatives for people with mental issues. At least that I saw.

3 posted on 09/19/2015 3:25:42 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Kaslin

National Right to Carry sounds good to me. And Project Exile doesn’t sound that bad.


4 posted on 09/19/2015 3:28:21 PM PDT by marron
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I have mixed feelings about National Conceal Carry. I am not sure how it would work. Shouldn’t it remain with the states? 2nd Amendment Foundation has been making great strides in this area.

You know what happens when the Fedgov gets its nose under the tent.

For the other program, I am more interested in hearing what cuts he will make, not new programs.

Donald, don’t be a bernie.


5 posted on 09/19/2015 3:28:28 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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Jazz wrote last year on the New York SAFE Act which saw people lose their right to own guns without a hearing. While Trump isn’t promoting this...

Why is he bringing it up then? Trump isn't promoting it and he spoke out against the SAFE act.

In any case, according to the American Psychiatric Association, “96% of people with serious mental illnesses never act violently.”

The APA has about as much credibility as the AMA... which is close to zero. But if that stat is to be believed, then out of, say, 1 million seriously mentally ill people only 40,000 will act violently? Comforting.

Virtually all of the latest mass shootings are done by mentally ill.

6 posted on 09/19/2015 3:28:29 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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While Trump isn’t promoting this, he is agreeing with Dewey Cornell of the Virginia Youth Violence Project who told USA Today “society” has to be protected from the mentally ill.

I would invite Taylor Millard to take a stroll threw Downtown Los Angeles sometime. You routinely encounter wild-eyed men and women who are homeless and who, as they walk the streets, scream out epithets to invisible people no one else can see. When you watch these people roaming the streets, you can see other people looking down when they encounter them in order to avoid making eye contact with them for fear of what might happen if they lock eyes with them.

I hate the idea of forcibly detaining people who have not committed a crime. But is it really the right thing to do, to let people who are obviously mentally ill wander the streets having to fend for themselves like stray dogs.

7 posted on 09/19/2015 3:28:35 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Kaslin

I have mixed feelings about National Conceal Carry. I am not sure how it would work. Shouldn’t it remain with the states? 2nd Amendment Foundation has been making great strides in this area.

You know what happens when the Fedgov gets its nose under the tent.

For the other program, I am more interested in hearing what cuts he will make, not new programs.

Donald, don’t be a bernie.


8 posted on 09/19/2015 3:28:37 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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Just look in your local paper for the “penalties” handed out on conviction for violent crimes involving guns in your community.

It is probation or very little time in jail (not prison, there is a difference).

With no real penalty, why not use a gun if you are a criminal?


9 posted on 09/19/2015 3:30:14 PM PDT by wrench
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“I notice he doesn’t give alternatives to putting people in jail with mandatory sentences. So is his solution to execute them? “

Put them on the street with the crazies ...


10 posted on 09/19/2015 3:30:18 PM PDT by TexasGator
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The Fedguv has no nose under the reciprocity tent except to ensure that states treat the right to keep and bear arms is treated like the privilege to drive a car.


11 posted on 09/19/2015 3:31:14 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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Overall it’s a damn good position paper.

What’s Hot Air’s position or I should say what’s Salem Media’s position? Oh yeah, they don’t like Trump.


12 posted on 09/19/2015 3:31:40 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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Numerous people who have permits have been charged with felonies when they are in a neighboring state with zero tolerance laws, like New York and New Jersey. This just equalizes everything so you don’t wind up inadvertently doing hard time for an otherwise legal firearm.


13 posted on 09/19/2015 3:34:12 PM PDT by marron
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National Right to Carry sounds good to me.

Yup. That means GOOD PEOPLE get to carry in New York City, Chicago and DC.

This is the best 2a paper put out by any candidate... like ever. That won't stop some from digging through minutia to find a turd - SOMEWHERE - in the pot of gold.

14 posted on 09/19/2015 3:35:12 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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Project Exile worked. That’s why the Dems killed it.

Anyone saying that Trump supporting a renewal of Project Exile is being anti-2nd is ignorant or a Bush/Hillary supporter.


15 posted on 09/19/2015 3:35:48 PM PDT by piytar (Good will be called evil and Evil will be called good.)
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The fact that he uses The National Research Council to refute the effectiveness of mandatory sentencing gives me cause for pause. While technically a non government organization, it receives 85% of its funding from the government. My guess is that it is overrun by liberals as well.


16 posted on 09/19/2015 3:41:40 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Red Steel

Actually a bookmark for later...but I have a question.

What did Carter do? I know that in the 80’s they closed institutions and turned out the mentally ill on the streets. Was that under Carter?


17 posted on 09/19/2015 3:46:29 PM PDT by berdie
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All the things that the NRC wants to eliminate were put in place to put and keep the offenders in jail because they were getting out early and committing more crimes.


18 posted on 09/19/2015 3:51:26 PM PDT by TexasGator
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It did work. Richmond had over a hundred murders a year before that.
By sending them further away to federal facilities it also broke up gang structures.


19 posted on 09/19/2015 3:53:22 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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From what I see Trump’s position is taken word for word from the NRA.


20 posted on 09/19/2015 3:56:57 PM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a fire"arm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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