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New ideas to keep guns from dangerous people (barf alert)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 6 oct 2015

Posted on 10/06/2015 11:43:37 AM PDT by rellimpank

The American debate over gun control has been stalemated for some time. Back in the 1990s, Congress was able to pass legislation requiring federal background checks on most gun purchasers and outlawing "assault weapons." But in this century, each mass shooting sparks a brief discussion of measures that might be helpful in preventing the next one — and the discussion ends with nothing being done.

Maybe last week's attack at an Oregon community college by a man who killed nine people and wounded nine others will finally break the impasse. It is past time to make guns less accessible to people who clearly shouldn't be trusted with them. But if lawmakers refuse to take the needed action, the president has options to address the problem without them.

Those convicted or charged with felonies, drug users, unauthorized foreigners and those who have been committed to mental institutions are barred from buying guns. The background check system serves to flag them if they make an attempt. But they can easily get around the ban by dealing with private sellers, who are not required to run background checks.

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1 posted on 10/06/2015 11:43:41 AM PDT by rellimpank
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Gun advice from Chicago.......how ironic.


2 posted on 10/06/2015 11:45:02 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: rellimpank

Great, require gang bangers selling stolen guns out of their trunk to run background checks.


3 posted on 10/06/2015 11:49:10 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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Ban guns from liberals and the vast majority of the problem has been solved.


4 posted on 10/06/2015 11:51:35 AM PDT by TMA62 (Al Sharpton - The North Korea of race relations)
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To: rellimpank

Make it illegal for liberals to own guns. Arrest and prosecute any lib with a gun. That ends the supply to criminals. And stops them from shooting up schools.

Why people do not show a breakdown of liberal vs conservative gun crime I will never know because liberals account for almost 100% of it.

Thats the core problem. Liberalism.


5 posted on 10/06/2015 11:51:38 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: TMA62

Beat me by 3 seconds ;)


6 posted on 10/06/2015 11:52:17 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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Esp Black liberals.


7 posted on 10/06/2015 11:55:13 AM PDT by Zman516 (Truth is the new hate speech -- Thought-Criminal #1)
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To: V_TWIN

And of course they’re back on the “evil black rifle mantra.” It’s that evil AR-15 that’s the major element in all these killings doncha know! I think in the murder stats, the baseball bat kills way more people than the AR!


8 posted on 10/06/2015 11:55:35 AM PDT by vette6387
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But they can easily get around the ban by dealing with private sellers, who are not required to run background checks.

Or, more likely, they just buy guns on the street, which no change in background checks will halt.

9 posted on 10/06/2015 11:56:24 AM PDT by dirtboy
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But banning it doesn’t matter. They’ll steal them anyway as they do now.


10 posted on 10/06/2015 11:57:21 AM PDT by Zman516 (Truth is the new hate speech -- Thought-Criminal #1)
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To: Norm Lenhart

The mother of the murdering SOB apparently bought the guns for him. Already illegal. More laws will certainly prevent this.


11 posted on 10/06/2015 11:58:23 AM PDT by Sasparilla (If youce, prepare for war.)
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To: vette6387

It’s even better. In the last reported year about 730 people were killed with rifles of all kinds, including “assault rifles,” while a bit over 1,000 were killed by other people using only their hands, feet, and other body parts. So much for the “unarmed black teenager” crap.


12 posted on 10/06/2015 12:01:37 PM PDT by libstripper
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Soon they will propose a ‘foreground’ check.

You must be vetted, and approved as a responsible gun owner, with a purpose for owning a gun (and gun desired must match that purpose).

May require a psych and physical check. A gender check (no masculinity allowed). An education check (BA degrees in socialism only), a voter registration check, a geographical check (no one within say about 50 miles of a gun-free zone).

Prove the negative. No time limit on the check. Costs borne by purchaser. Repeat for each gun, repeat every year for every gun.

Hey, I could run against hellary.


13 posted on 10/06/2015 12:02:25 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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Why is the Left’s solution to criminal acts with guns to demand more laws for the law abiding?

Um their criminals. They don’t obey your laws now Leftists.


14 posted on 10/06/2015 12:02:53 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: rellimpank

“It is past time to make guns less accessible to people who clearly shouldn’t be trusted with them.”

OHHHHH, we’re just talking gun control for liberals, I see.


15 posted on 10/06/2015 12:03:29 PM PDT by Boogieman
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As I recall, decades ago didn’t Chicago have some problems when Congress passed a law making it illegal to drink alcohol? Didn’t I read that Chicago passed a gun control bill recently, but there were over 60 gun shot victims and 12 murders last week in Chicago? Didn’t I read where Prohibition really didn’t stop people from drinking, but made a lot of bad people really rich? Didn’t I read where half-ass laws like this never work, but simply drive the market underground where bad people thrive? Didn’t I read that Liberals have the IQ of dust?


16 posted on 10/06/2015 12:04:25 PM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

It would be entertaining to see the voting history of any person who has been convicted of a felony involving a firearm along with the voting history of his/her family members.

17 posted on 10/06/2015 12:04:27 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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Dear Moron Leftists

A 6ft 4in 225 lbs man has broken into your house to rob your family and rape your daughters.

Do you want to take him on hand to hand or with a Glock pistol?

More laws are not going to stop crazies or evil people


18 posted on 10/06/2015 12:05:42 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: rellimpank

All of the ideas that President Obama has proposed for more gun control are already in effect in Oregon. Think about that.


19 posted on 10/06/2015 12:05:52 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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***outlawing “assault weapons.”***

That law was so easy to get around it was pitiful. You could go to any gun show and find 30 round magazines “For Law Enforcement Only” for sale to the great unwashed for maybe a few dollars more than a pre-ban magazine.

Bayonet lugs were ground off due to the epidemic of bayonetings (giggle) before he ban, the flash hider holes filled. Some rifle stocks were converted to Thumbhole stocks.
The whole law was an enormous joke.

It reminded me of when the game of nine pins were banned. The gamers SIMPLY added one more pin and called it BOWLING.


20 posted on 10/06/2015 12:06:08 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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