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Ben Carson Defends Hitler Gun Control Statements
abcnews.go.com ^ | October 09, 2015

Posted on 10/10/2015 7:27:30 AM PDT by Helicondelta

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson defended his controversial remarks this morning in which he suggested that 6 million Jews would not have been slaughtered if they had easy access to guns.

“I think the likelihood of Hitler being able to accomplish his goals would have been greatly diminished if the people had been armed,” Carson said on CNN Thursday. “I’m telling you there is a reason these dictatorial people take guns first."

The Anti-Defamation League condemned the comments, saying in a statement: “Ben Carson has a right to his views on gun control, but the notion that Hitler’s gun-control policy contributed to the Holocaust is historically inaccurate. The small number of personal firearms available to Germany’s Jews in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state.”

Carson called the Anti-Defamation League’s statement this morning “total foolishness.”

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1 posted on 10/10/2015 7:27:30 AM PDT by Helicondelta
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To: Helicondelta

75 years after the fact, and the ADL is still demanding the German Jews’ right to be disarmed in the face of the Nazi machine.


2 posted on 10/10/2015 7:30:58 AM PDT by dead ("I'm up to my eyeball in virgin goats!" - Mullah Omar)
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To: Helicondelta

There was already gun control in the early 1920s with the non-Nazis in firm control of the country. Roughly seven years later...the same non-Nazi leadership enacted more gun control. The Nazis after they came in with the 1932 election....simply put up a law that required gunsmiths to keep notes on all repairs and the serials/ownership of weapons they fixed.

For those who might be curious...the real fear in Germany in the 1920s was that all the troops came home after WW I with their weapons and communist revolution was the fear that everyone had....not the Nazis.


3 posted on 10/10/2015 7:32:46 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: dead

ADL = self-hating Jews. Kapos.


4 posted on 10/10/2015 7:33:18 AM PDT by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: Helicondelta
The small number of personal firearms available to Germany’s Jews in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state.”

Oh. Okay. What if there was a LARGE number of personal firearms available to Germany's Jews in 1938?

5 posted on 10/10/2015 7:34:36 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Helicondelta

“Ben Carson Defends Hitler Gun Control Statements”

This headline almost gave me a heart attack!

Misleading me into thinking Carson was defending Hitler’s gun control (and statements Hitler made about it).


6 posted on 10/10/2015 7:35:51 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Helicondelta

I am definitely not a Carson supporter, but he is right on this one. He did not say anything about the availability of guns, he specified easy access to guns. There is a difference, and these freaks can’t resist their knee-jerk reactions against gun ownership.


7 posted on 10/10/2015 7:38:46 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Helicondelta

The ADL proves yet again that it doesn’t represent the best interests of Jews, but the instead the political interests of the Leftists who long ago captured that organization. A pox on them.


8 posted on 10/10/2015 7:39:04 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Helicondelta

If guns were so useless, why did we make such an effort to arm the civilian resistance in occupied Europe during the war?


9 posted on 10/10/2015 7:44:27 AM PDT by muskah
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To: Helicondelta
The small number of personal firearms available to Germany’s Jews in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state.

A stupid statement. Dr. Carson did not indicate that access to a small number of guns might have averted the holocaust. He also did not say or imply it could have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state. Also the Jews did not know that they were being rounded up for extermination. I think most believed they were being relocated, which is just what the Nazis wanted them to think. The Nazis obviously were trying to prevent any messy resistance.

10 posted on 10/10/2015 7:50:53 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: Helicondelta
the notion that Hitler’s gun-control policy contributed to the Holocaust is historically inaccurate.

Insanely foolish beliefs like this are a scary indicator of how deeply the leftist brainwashing has taken hold.

This asinine assertion doesn't stand up when it is compared to what happened in the Warsaw Ghetto in 1943 when Jews finally decided to fight back.


11 posted on 10/10/2015 7:54:38 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Helicondelta

In every liberal’s mind there is a Pol Pot trying to get out.


12 posted on 10/10/2015 8:00:40 AM PDT by bruoz
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To: muskah
If guns were so useless, why did we make such an effort to arm the civilian resistance in occupied Europe during the war?

If guns are so useless why do Barack Obama and all the other leftist anti-gun wussies have such heavily armed personal security?

If guns are so useless why did the Obama administration hand them over to Mexican drug cartels via Fast and Furious?

If guns are so useless why did Obama give a hundred billion dollars worth of US guns and ammo to his "moderate muslim" pals in Syria the mid-east?


13 posted on 10/10/2015 8:05:11 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: dead

“If every Jewish and anti-Nazi family in Germany had owned a Mauser rifle

and twenty rounds of ammunition AND THE WILL TO USE IT,

Adolf Hitler would be a little-known footnote to the history of the Weimar Republic.”

In the 20th Century: Governments murdered four times as many civilians

as were killed in all the international and domestic wars combined.

Governments murdered millions more people than were killed by common criminals.

http://jpfo.org/articles-assd04/codrea-kapos-for-kristallnacht.htm

If you don’t understand words...perhaps a picture is worth MORE THAN A THOUSAND...words.

http://right180.com/2015/09/13/ben-carson-to-beck-you-have-no-right-to-semi-automatic-weapons-in-large-cities
Dr. Ben Carson To Beck: You Have No Right To Semi-Automatic Weapons in Large Cities

...he says because there is a lot of crime...! So ANYWHERE there is a LOT of Crime YOU do not HAVE YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to Keep and Bear ARMS!
So if the goobermunt says there is a lot of crime in Amerika...you do not have a 2nd Amendment right to “bear arms” Rigkt?
WRONG Dr. Carson.

Russian author Alexander Solzhenitsyn won a Nobel prize for writing about life in a Soviet political system/prison “Gulag Archipeligo” and other books...

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? ...(NOPE !...I prefer the weapons the Founders of the United States said Citizens could use[bear] “for the security of a FREE state”)-2nd Amendment to the United States Constitution.
The organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt !”

Solzhenitsyn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Solzhenitsyn

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i12/Gunkadink/12079715_10153214411504072_9089645245310061161_n_zps51inz8hh.jpg

Yeppers...that Constitution just doesn’t work anymore..

doncha think?

...ever. ( ; ) Shalom Man !

“As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives [only] moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion to your walks.”

— Thomas Jefferson, writing to his teenaged nephew.

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government”

— Thomas Jefferson, 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

“The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good”

— George Washington
“The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.”

— Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-188

http://www.catb.org/~esr/guns/quotes.html

http://www.alloutdoor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Knabenschiessen2-660x595.jpg


14 posted on 10/10/2015 8:10:13 AM PDT by DavidLSpud ("Go and sin no more"-Rejoice always, pray continually...)
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“Jews would not have been slaughtered if they had easy access to guns.”

I say you- “Give one Jew a gun and he`ll hold out a month against the whole German SS.”

WARSAW GHETTO

“The German forces intended to begin the operation to liquidate the Warsaw ghetto on April 19, 1943, the eve of Passover...

55,000-60,000 Jews remaining in the Warsaw ghetto...
The Germans had planned to liquidate the Warsaw ghetto in three days, but the ghetto fighters held out for more than a month. Even after the end of the uprising on May 16, 1943, individual Jews hiding out in the ruins of the ghetto continued to attack the patrols of the Germans and their auxiliaries. The Warsaw ghetto uprising was the largest, symbolically most important Jewish uprising, and the first urban uprising, in German-occupied Europe. The resistance in Warsaw inspired other uprisings in ghettos (e.g., Bialystok and Minsk) and killing centers (Treblinka and Sobibor).

Armed with pistols, grenades (many of them homemade), and a few automatic weapons and rifles, the ZOB fighters stunned the Germans and their auxiliaries on the first day of fighting, forcing the German forces to retreat outside the ghetto wall.”

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005188


15 posted on 10/10/2015 8:10:14 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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To: Texas Eagle
"" The small number of personal firearms available to Germany’s Jews in 1938 could in no way have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi German state.”"

(Texas Eagle said;) Oh. Okay. What if there was a LARGE number of personal firearms available to Germany's Jews in 1938?

That was beautiful, Man!!!

16 posted on 10/10/2015 8:17:28 AM PDT by misanthrope (Liberalism; it is not unthinking ignorance, it is malignant evil.)
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To: Iron Munro

OOPS !!!!

If you don’t understand words...perhaps a picture is worth MORE THAN A THOUSAND...words.

http://grossmanproject.net/images/Einsatzgruppen2.jpg


17 posted on 10/10/2015 8:17:39 AM PDT by DavidLSpud ("Go and sin no more"-Rejoice always, pray continually...)
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To: Helicondelta

Hitler wasn’t the only one... Almost all modern day mass murderers disarmed their populations before slaughtering them... Stalin did the same.


18 posted on 10/10/2015 8:23:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want gun legislation? Fine. Pass a Bill outlawing 'gun free' zones.)
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To: Helicondelta

Hitler wasn’t the only one... Almost all modern day mass murderers disarmed their populations - or their chosen victim group - before slaughtering them... Stalin did the same.

The people Obama wants to disarm are law biding traditional Americans. Obama has no interest in disarming thugs in Chicago who have shot over 2,000 people this year - murdering hundreds. That group of thugs Obama is very quiet about... wonder why?

Put that in your pipe and smoke it for a while.


19 posted on 10/10/2015 8:26:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want gun legislation? Fine. Pass a Bill outlawing 'gun free' zones.)
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To: Helicondelta

I am not sure how anyone on the planet could take issue with his comments. He is stating the obvious; that guns will help against tyrants.

What exactly is the controversy? The MSM makes themselves look foolish once again.


20 posted on 10/10/2015 8:28:13 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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