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Looking to me like the GOPe is trying to sabotage the conservatives and make them toxic.

First was McCarthy's statement giving Hillary huge cover for her economic espionage+

Then McConnell coming out attacking Social Security and Medicare entitlements. Painting conservatives with a broad stroke of callousness during a time of economic insecurity and choking economy -- a time when the focus should be on improving jobs, improving economy and making America great again.

Going on an entitlement rampage is going to distract from the 2016 elections and is a strategy worse then the government shutdowns they've been fearing.

1 posted on 10/14/2015 8:23:38 AM PDT by Fhios
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Why Social Security? Why not TANF and SSDI? Why do we pay people for being drug addicts or baby machines?


2 posted on 10/14/2015 8:25:52 AM PDT by steve8714 (Pumpkin spice is made of PEOPLE!)
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The GOPe is incredibly stupid.


3 posted on 10/14/2015 8:26:01 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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Social Security and Medicare entitlements should be attacked.

(Nevertheless, Mitch McConnell should be sent packing.)


4 posted on 10/14/2015 8:27:14 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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I watched an interview McConnell gave a few weeks ago and I was thinking ,Alzheimer patient


5 posted on 10/14/2015 8:27:26 AM PDT by butlerweave
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By all means, it is a strategy far worse then the government shutdowns they've been fearing.

Mitt Romney was a mushy moderate like Mitch the Turtle, but he did get at least one thing right: the best short term way to extend the solvency of these programs is to make sure we have a far higher ratio of people working and paying into these programs than those collecting from them.

6 posted on 10/14/2015 8:28:14 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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But he couldn’t defund planned parenthood because it was “bound to lose?”. We now see what Mitch really considers worth fighting for and it’s not the lives of innocent babies.


7 posted on 10/14/2015 8:28:14 AM PDT by circlecity
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This is stupid. Mcconnell will be poisoning the well if he takes this stand.


8 posted on 10/14/2015 8:30:03 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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Your analysis seems spot on.


9 posted on 10/14/2015 8:31:05 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (When the MSM and Elites want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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The levels of stupidity displayed by this person are just too much for me to even shake my head at. Trump is our only hope.


10 posted on 10/14/2015 8:31:17 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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Suddenly he pretends to want to play hard ball?

Show me, Mitch. I’ll be a Missourian today.


13 posted on 10/14/2015 8:35:17 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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REPUBLICANS - Doing The Dirty Work So Democrats Won’t Have To

We are al;ways told scary tales of Social Security and Medicare being ready to go broke

And those are always the first programs attacked when a politician wants to act like he is budget conscious.

But there is rarely talk about a shortage of money to pay for more welfare, government housing, EBT payments, EITC payments, Obama-Phones, Obamacare, sex changes for prisoners, stupid research grants, habndouts to foreighn countries, and free medical and other free stuff for illegals and legal immigrants.


17 posted on 10/14/2015 8:43:27 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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"McConnell coming out attacking Social Security and Medicare entitlements"
It's a technique called "poisoning the well".

Now every call for responsible spending will be tainted and McConnell can get the big debt and spending he and the Dems want.

20 posted on 10/14/2015 8:48:30 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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This is very interesting since McConnell and his ilk refused to defend fund Obamacare when they had the chance!

This is another dog and pony show for the conservative masses to give them the appearance the old GOPe RINO’s tried to do something and then cave on the debt ceiling being raised again!

The fight has already been lost since McConnell and ilk have already started they will not shut down the government under any circumstance. The only way McConnell and ilk could possibly win this game is if the Obama administration believed McConnell would actually shut down the government if Obama and company refused to give him what he wanted. But, because McConnell has already told Obama he will not shut the government down, Obama does not have to give McConnell a damn thing!

Yes Sir, this is a “Dog and Pony” show for the conservatives and the American people. Let's watch and see how many fall for it?

22 posted on 10/14/2015 8:50:18 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN DIV. 1/508th BN Alfa Team Leader 2nd civil war is coming to the USA)
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Raising the Medicare retirement age is pretty pointless.

If people age 65 aren’t getting Medicare, they’ll mainly be getting Medicaid or heavily subsidized PPACA coverage.

I think the main things that can be done for Medicare is with the drug program (Part D) and barring supplemental coverage for outpatient physical therapy and devices such as fancy wheelchairs. I would also move many drugs to OTC status.

As for Social Security, there is a relatively minor problem that needs about a 6% correction. This will have to be dealt with, but we shouldn’t lose an election over an eventually unavoidable issue.

The big problem is with Social Security disability. The disability trust funds is just about broke. However, there will be automatic benefit cuts, so it really is up to the Democrats to propose SS disability solutions.

What I would like to see for SS disability is employer hiring incentives based on VA style disability ratings along with benefit cuts starting May 1,2017 of 10% (or less if enough people are removed from the rolls). There would be no benefit cuts if you are:
1. drug offense free and
2. physically unable to operate an automobile or are legally incompetent

I would also like to see financial institutions barred from taking more than $10 in fees and other charges from a SS disability account in a calendar or statement month.


27 posted on 10/14/2015 8:57:32 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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I cringe when I see the word "entitlement" attached to Social Security and Medicare. While those who paid in are entitled to their benefit, "entitlement" is more frequently used in the pejorative these days; sense of entitlement. We should push to change the verbiage, control the language, win the argument.

JMHO, I hate seeing SS & MC lumped in with the freeloading funds.

28 posted on 10/14/2015 8:58:37 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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I doubt he is serious about this. I think it is just grandstanding to take the bite out of the eventual GOPe cave. To do something like this, you have to set the table, and that clearly has not been done (so far) by McConnell and company.
29 posted on 10/14/2015 9:01:15 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Those that can, do, those that can't, work in the Beltway.)
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McConnell is seeking a reduction in cost-of-living adjustments to Social Security recipients and new restrictions on Medicare, including limiting benefits to the rich and raising the eligibility age, several sources said.

I think the cost-of-living adjustments for Social Security has been zero for the last couple of years. How much more of a reduction is he proposing?

31 posted on 10/14/2015 9:05:21 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Well, whatever he does, the voters of Kentucky approve of it. They put him in office. And their credo is" At least he is not a Democrat.

If you blame Mitch, you are spinning your wheels. It is not his fault. he is what he is. The fault lies with the good citizens that put him in office. Blame them.

33 posted on 10/14/2015 9:11:57 AM PDT by sport
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The only “idea” anyone should entertain from Mitch is, at the very least, his resignation from leadership. More properly he should resign his seat and disappear in abject shame.


38 posted on 10/14/2015 9:26:53 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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Headline says ‘floats’ and I call this BS. McConnell doesn’t have any desire to fight the President on these issues and Obamas knows it. He also knows McConnell will not back up a fight with closing the government.

BS all the way.


39 posted on 10/14/2015 9:28:35 AM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one.... what's yoIur plan?)
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