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A Challenge to the GOP from Bernie Sanders: Put Up or Shut Up on Capitalism
Townhall.com ^ | October 14, 2015 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 10/14/2015 10:53:30 AM PDT by Kaslin

While his policy ideas are horrifying, Bernie Sanders’ campaign is the source of some amusement.

He claims to represent a different vision, but his voting record according to the National Taxpayers Union is virtually identical to the ratings received by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton when they were in the Senate.

He’s not even a real socialist, at least if we usethe technical definition of this poisonous ideology, which is based on government ownership of the means of production. That being said, Democratic operatives such as Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultzsound like fools on TV because they don’t even know the difference between genuine socialism and big-government redistributionism.

But I will give Sanders credit for his recent challenge to Republicans. He was being badgered about his supposed socialist orientation on a political news show and he turned the question on its head and asked whether Republicans would be willing to identify as being pro-capitalist.

Here’s an excerpt from a report in The Hill.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) says he’s tired of questions about whether he’s a socialist, asking why more people don’t want Republicans to defend themselves as capitalists. “Look, when one of your Republican colleagues gets on the show, do you say, ‘Are you a capitalist?’” the Democratic presidential candidate said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. “Have you ever referred to them as capitalists?”

I think this is a good idea.

I’d like every single GOP candidate to be asked some version of Sanders’ question.

And if any of them displayed the slightest hesitation before offering a loud and unapologetic “yes” in support of capitalism, that would be a very good indication that they shouldn’t be trusted anywhere close to the Oval Office.

After all, how could anyone support big government over markets after watching these videos narrated by Don Boudreaux, Walter Williams, and Deirdre McCloskey?

Or how could anyone pick socialism (or any other form of coercive statism) after reviewing how market-based economies out-perform big-government economies?

Heck, I repeatedly ask my left-wing friends to identify just one big-government success story. I don’t ask for 10 nations that prospered with large governments. I don’t ask for five countries that might be considered successful examples of statist prosperity.

I just plead with them to give me one case study. And the only response is chirping crickets. Why? Because no nation has ever become rich during an era of big government.

So if any Republican candidate showed the slightest hesitation before extolling the glories of free markets, that person should be booed off the stage.

By the way, I can’t resist commenting on one other part of the story in The Hill about Sanders. The Vermont Senator apparently was asked to identify nations that are role models.

Did he list North Korea and Cuba, countries that actually still have genuine socialism?

Nope.

Did he list Venezuela or China, countries that have partial government ownership of the means of production?

Nope.

Instead he picked Denmark and Sweden.

The senator said he admires the social programs in nations like Denmark and Sweden, and he thinks “we can look to those countries” for guidance.

Since both those countries still have large welfare states with high tax rates and lots of redistribution, his answer is somewhat understandable.

But what about government ownership of the means of production and control over the allocation of resources? In addition to having big governments, is there a lot of intervention in markets?

Hardly. Indeed, if you take the data from Economic Freedom of the World and remove the fiscal policy variable (and thus measure the degree to which markets are allowed to operate), then Denmark and Sweden are both among the world’s top-10 nations for free markets.

And both rank above the United States!

So we have two nations that are more free market than America while also having bigger government than America. I’m not sure how to characterize this so-called Nordic Model, but it’s definitely not socialism.

The bottom line, though, is that you get the most growth when you have both free markets and small government. In other words, genuine capitalism.

That’s obviously not the agenda of Bernie Sanders, though I hope Republicans will be forced to answer his question and tell us whether they favor capitalism.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: berniesanders; capitalism; freemarket; sanders; socialism
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1 posted on 10/14/2015 10:53:30 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Memo to Bernie Sanders and Daniel Mitchell: Go and read Milton Friedman's Capitalism and Freedom. If you are anti-capitalist you are anti-freedom. The link between the two is historical and irrefutable.
3 posted on 10/14/2015 10:58:33 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: Kaslin

Oh, great and merciful Lord of true freedom and liberty, please allow this challenge regarding capitalism (human economic freedom) and socialism (tyrannical economic direction) to move forward.

Whether it is Cruz or Trump on the capitalist side means little. The economic tyrannists ought truly to be any of the current [D] choices.


4 posted on 10/14/2015 10:58:36 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (BREAKING: Boy Scouts of America Changes Corporate Identity to "Scouting for Boys in America")
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To: Kaslin

Uh, I would ask Bernie to name something that’s fed as many people as capitalism.


5 posted on 10/14/2015 11:03:01 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Kaslin

I don’t think Donald Trump has to answer to this self-retarded moron on whether he’s a capitalist or not.

One might as well ask Donald if he has two eyes and a nose.

Sanders needs to answer for his socialism because it is a failed ideology with disastrous consequences. He needs to specifically ask who will produce and provide for all the products and services that he is promising to his listening fools. Will he just have the government print the money? Will he raise taxes to create the money?

But he will never answer such questions, rather he will as this author wrote “turn the question on its head” because he doesn’t have an answer himself. His response is to deflect it off to others. That is telling about what a leader he would be; no leader, just a fool with a big mouth and poor ideas based on failure.


6 posted on 10/14/2015 11:04:06 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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7 posted on 10/14/2015 11:04:27 AM PDT by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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I’ll take capitalism over communism every time. Glad he asked.


8 posted on 10/14/2015 11:06:16 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: Kaslin

Didn’t this guy point to Denmark as an economic model last night?


9 posted on 10/14/2015 11:07:11 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: 4Runner

While I agree with that in principle, I will have to say that our unfettered foreign trade over the last two decades has decimated our nation.

Ernie Sanders couldn’t make the claims he is, if that weren’t true.

What some folks see as merely the best of Capitalism, has been the worst of it, because there was not Free Trade as advertised.

We have tens of millions of people out of work today.

With Capitalism being implemented in full, that should not be possible. We allowed ourselves to be hoodwinked.


10 posted on 10/14/2015 11:07:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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Don’t “debate” Sanders’ bonkers ideology

Ridicule, ridicule, ridicule.


11 posted on 10/14/2015 11:07:54 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: McGruff

12 posted on 10/14/2015 11:08:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: Kaslin

Without a Host, what do Parasites do?


13 posted on 10/14/2015 11:08:36 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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To: V_TWIN

Capitalism has been working pretty good for over 200 years around here Bern. Why is it these people have such a self loathing for the country that has taken care of and protected them their whole lives. I just don’t get it.


14 posted on 10/14/2015 11:09:55 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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If Capitalism is so bad, why do liberals support programs to teach women in developing countries to start home based businesses to support their families?


15 posted on 10/14/2015 11:14:03 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Liberals hate the term "illegal immigrant" unless you are referring to a baby they plan to abort)
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To: Kaslin

Hey Bernie, put up or shut up about the number of people murdered by Socialists. Since you are a self described member of the Murder Party, you should expect such a question.


16 posted on 10/14/2015 11:16:01 AM PDT by The Toll
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Get out of the way and let us actually put capitalism to work, and we’ll put up, Bernie.....


17 posted on 10/14/2015 11:16:39 AM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Kaslin
Having family from Denmark, the answer is always the same why they came to America - the socialists took over.

The fantasy that Denmark and Sweden offer some form of economic freedom for business is an absolute joke; almost every aspect of employment and supply chain is strictly regulated. Add in all the EU rules and both countries shackle their businesses as if it were the slave trade their Dutch neighbors specialized in.

There are only two types of people who point to those nations as examples: The delusional and the liars.

Bernie Sanders is absolutely in the second camp; he hates the socialist label, not because he's not a socialist, but because it is a hurdle he constantly has to leap over. Silencing that question is key to pushing his, well, socialist agenda.

I don't know which camp the author of this article is in, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say the first. But when you're linking to wordpress articles to support your argument, I lean heavily towards the second camp.

18 posted on 10/14/2015 11:19:22 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Next Question, Bernie.

19 posted on 10/14/2015 11:21:21 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (We must first defeat RINOs before we can even encounter a Democrat to fight)
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To: DoughtyOne

Friedman would have agreed with you, of course. So do I.


20 posted on 10/14/2015 11:26:56 AM PDT by 4Runner
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