Posted on 10/17/2015 8:14:36 PM PDT by SubMareener
Right, the press ignored that just like the ignore Obama’s forged BC.
Hmm.. no. The Shock and Awe attack was meant to kill Saddam and avert war and it failed and forced us into the war.
No wonder Blair’s speeches were so moving, measured and impressive - he had lots of time to practice them.
What is most bothersome is the abject stupidity that got us into a needless war in Iraq. The US military performed very well; they got the assignment and did it right. What was NOT done right was: 1) getting into an unnecessary war in the first place; and 2) once you conquered Iraq, apparently having no viable plan for running a country with a substantial educated, modern-looking population and infrastructure. When the Allies beat Germany, they knew that you have to have some local authority in place so they retained the police as long as they renounced Naziism and proved that had not been involved in the deportations or mass murders of the Hitler gang. The Allies realized that without some local control you would have an ungovernable modern country; in Iraq, the Bushbots fired anyone who had the slightest ties to the Baath Party and replaced them with who and with what??
Bkmrk.
This article is evidence that Benghazi is hurting Hillary more than we know. Expect more of it.
Were the current occupant of the White House a Patriot, one would expect any of a dozen war scenarios to be bandied about with our allies on any given day. Think about contingencies for bad actors: China, Russia, Iran, N. Korea, Egypt, 'Palestine', Argentina, Cuba, etc. ad nauseum.
This is not news.
I cannot recommend to your notice measures for the fulfillment of our duties to the rest of the world without again pressing upon you the necessity of placing ourselves in a condition of complete defense and of exacting from them the fulfillment of their duties toward us. The United States ought not to indulge a persuasion that, contrary to the order of human events, they will forever keep at a distance those painful appeals to arms with which the history of every other nation abounds. There is a rank due to the United States among nations which will be withheld, if not absolutely lost, by the reputation of weakness. If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known that we are at all times ready for war.To call Iraq a needless war is to utterly minimize the danger out of a clear anti-US and anti-Israel terror sponsor (well known for supporting the Palestinians never mind fellow Baathist Assad) who was indeed seeking nuclear weapons albeit with less ability than Iran currently possesses towards that goal. The liberals in DC (their number never excludes the RINOs) turned it into a means to continually erode US military power and destabilize the world for the furthering of their revolution, never mind erode the will of the US people via media lies and innuendo (such as the Daily Wail article in the OP).
George Washington, Fifth Annual Message, 1793
Then why aren’t we doing more to get rid of Assad in Syria? He’s a butcher. Let’s send in the Green Berets. Arm the Islamists with stingers. Let’s move all our F-22s into Syria and shoot Russian planes down.
That was the biggest mistake. We disbanded the Ba’athist government including the Army. And guess what? They were unemployed and angry with lots of free time. So they formed the core of the insurgency in Iraq.
Sorry, but if we engaged in a constant battle with Middle East leaders who were anti-western and anti-Israel we would be at war perpetually. You are NOT going to change places like Afghanistan or the bulk of people who live there, no matter how desirable that may be. I haven’t seen a shred of evidence to indicate that the Second Iraq War was anything other than a terrible mistake, one that cost the lives of thousands of our best young men and women, maimed countless others for life, and cost trillions of dollars (unlike the $ 100 billion max figure put out by the GW Bush staff before the war was instituted).
The "charges" were not for "new and innovated weapons". The invasion happened because he refused to honor the terms of the agreements made.
You have to fight islam wherever you can.
(T)o fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemys resistance without fighting.That is the same book that says In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns (II:19)but that puts things back in context lest anyone be tempted to avoid any sort of campaign and thus cast away victory. But believe the trillions figure if you want to believe the liberals.
The Art Of War III:2
No, the biggest mistake was not getting rid of the Ba’athist regime, but replacing it with a radical Iran-backed Shi’ite regime with an Islamic constitution of another form (which incorporated a lot of Saddam’s constitution notwithstanding). So it was like doing nothing at all in a lot of respects.
Yes they were decaying. And the Bush admin failed to honor our boys by helping them and denied they existed. The point of the invasion was to remove the threat of wmd's that were a threat to US. Instability is far a greater threat than a few decaying wmd's that were leftover from fighting the Iranians.
Shi'ites are the majority in Iraq so it's only appropriate for them to be represented in the current Iraqi government. However, most of the soldiers were Sunni. Give them jobs and allow them to stay in the Army. That would had eliminated 90% of the insurgency, perhaps. Iraq would be more like Egypt now. Hardly perfect but functional for the time being.
Egypt was once the primary Islamic aggressor against Israel and the West, under Nasser; it was nothing short of miraculous that Sadat pulled a so-called “heel-face turn” after his stance in the Yom Kippur War, never mind Mubarak doing what he did for all those decades until Obama showed up.
Iraq was stable until soetoro surrendered. Is that Bush's fault too?
How many of our troops could possibly be harmed by "a few, decaying wmd left over from the Iranian war"?
What you are missing and what the Daily Mail is down playing is that this is a CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT that came FROM Hillary’s server.
It is classified SECRET/NOFORN and has not been declassified. Why did she have it on her server as it is dated 2002? Part of the Clinton dirty tricks plan?
But the bottom line here for Americans is that this is a CLASSIFIED DOCUMENT of the type that Hillary has denied having on her server.
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