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Re: The Trump/Bush 9/11 keeping America safe debate

Posted on 10/18/2015 12:23:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Regardless of who may be right or wrong on the current Trump/Bush keeping America safe debate, the bottom line is whose policies would you rather have in place going forward and which will keep America safer? Trump's deport and secure the border policy or Bush's amnesty and open borders?


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 911; aliens; amnesty; borders; bush; deport; illegals; immigration; nationalsecurity; secureborders; terrorists; trump
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To: Pikachu_Dad

His book hasn’t come out yet.


201 posted on 10/18/2015 5:44:28 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Jim Robinson

I mostly agree. But trump is jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. It is defeating one set of folks who are likely to sell us down the river for a guy who is likely to do the same thing.


202 posted on 10/18/2015 5:49:14 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: AAABEST

NOT VOTING=THE LEFT WINS!


203 posted on 10/18/2015 5:50:39 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: dynoman

I’m not much for believing in the conversions of 65 year old men to conservatism. Especially liars, especially short of a religious conversion. He hasn’t self-reported a religious conversion, so I’ll assume one didn’t happen.

In a case like this, it seems more likely that he’s still a liberal, and is just lying to us, or that he never had any principles at all. And then once in office, we’ll have no idea what he’ll do. I know that whatever he does, he will benefit and even if he blatantly sells us down the river, he will convince the cultists, of which there are many, that he’s doing it all for them.


204 posted on 10/18/2015 5:57:03 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

Here’s an interesting post on this issue:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3350137/posts

Apparently, Jeb agrees with Trump on the 9/11 fiasco. Or, did at one time.


205 posted on 10/18/2015 6:01:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t consider Jeb a particularly reliable source most of the time. That’s one of the reasons I won’t vote for him.


206 posted on 10/18/2015 6:08:09 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Jim Robinson

9/11 terrorists entered the country before GW was president
and Jeb is saying policy became different under his brother

There is no agreement between the two


207 posted on 10/18/2015 6:13:12 PM PDT by woofie
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To: sitetest

Did you watch the video??


208 posted on 10/18/2015 6:47:43 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

His book on his many positions have been out for a long time.

Try reading.

It’s good for you.


210 posted on 10/18/2015 7:06:38 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Voting for trump = the left wins.

So what is your point?


211 posted on 10/18/2015 7:07:54 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Do you have a link to the quote from that book that, according to you, advocates gun control?

Second time I’ve asked.


212 posted on 10/18/2015 7:09:38 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I’ll read the next one. And I’ll watch his pressers, interviews and rallies.

Did you watch the video in post 195?? Try it, it might be good for you!


213 posted on 10/18/2015 7:09:56 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well said and that is exactly what Trump was implying.

If we had a tight immigration policy, then it would have been a lot harder for the hijackers to been able to kill so many Americans.

I agree with Trump’s statement.


214 posted on 10/18/2015 7:13:16 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Fantasywriter

And second time I have ignored you.

Try google.

It is free.

It is easy to use.


215 posted on 10/18/2015 7:18:21 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap")
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I know what’s in the book. The gun control items you cited are not there.

Why do people lie about Trump?


216 posted on 10/18/2015 7:28:49 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: dynoman

Why? What’s the video about? How does the video change the historical fact that he previously backed dammocrap candidates, engaged in crony capitalism (which is actually part of the economic plan of fascism), backed the kenyan anti-christ ‘s Porkulus and as recently as 2009 or 2010 backed obamacare? How does it change the historical fact that he lied about Gov. Walker, Dr. Carson, and President George W
Bush? That he broke his promises to his note holders at least four time in bankruptcy?

I’ll make a deal with you, I’ll spend 30 seconds on your video AFTER you explain to me why I should believe anything out of his mouth. I had a hard time with Gov. Romney as a conervative. But trump’s sorry act makes me think Romnry deserved an Oscar, by comparison.


217 posted on 10/18/2015 7:55:12 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, now unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

My point is the presidential race is, only, one of many political races that take place, at the same time. By not voting, you are helping the left win, at each and every political level. “Blank” the race for POTUS, if you, really, believe that’s the definitive answer, there, but don’t, also, not vote in other races for other political offices. BTW, Trump might, really, mean what he says, while campaigning. Unfortunately, we can’t be in Trump’s head to know exactly whether or not he’s going to be a leftist POTUS, or a conservative POTUS, if he, even, becomes POTUS at all. God knows the definitive answer to this, but God is not telling.


218 posted on 10/18/2015 7:56:41 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: sitetest

Donald talks to the audience about a top reporter asking him how it feels to start a movement. The reporter tells Trump he’s never seen anything like it before. What’s especially interesting the make up of the crowd behind Trump. Watch it to the end, it’s about a few minutes and won’t kill you.


219 posted on 10/18/2015 8:12:48 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Pikachu_Dad; Jim Robinson

Where is your simple choice???


220 posted on 10/18/2015 8:34:40 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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