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To: SeekAndFind
premiums have to be hiked The dirty little secret is that not only do health insurance premiums go up but so do Home Insurance Premiums, Auto Insurance Premiums, Liability Insurance Premimus...etc.
2 posted on
10/20/2015 8:49:11 AM PDT by
HOYA97
(twitter @hoya97)
To: SeekAndFind
Since I don’t do Obamacare, I am unaware of the mechanics for sign-up. Is there a window with which you must purchase a policy or can it be at any time during the year? If the latter, what is to prevent people from signing up Dec 30/31 and then cancelling the policy Jan 1/2 in order to avoid IRS penalty?
5 posted on
10/20/2015 8:53:33 AM PDT by
rjsimmon
(The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
To: SeekAndFind
Dreaded? Nope. Planned. When it crashes, the “only solution” is single payer. As intended.
7 posted on
10/20/2015 8:53:56 AM PDT by
ctdonath2
(Everyone entering NRA offices come out alive. Not so Planned Parenthood.)
To: SeekAndFind
death spiral OK but what makes anyone think, with America $18 trillion dollars in the hole and falling, that the "leaders" in DC who created this mess will suddenly become eager to fix anything budget-wise ?
To them, debts and deficits, red as they may be, are nothing more than images on a page
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8 posted on
10/20/2015 8:55:46 AM PDT by
repentant_pundit
(Sammy's your uncle, but he behaves like a spoiled rotten brat.)
To: SeekAndFind
>>ObamaCare is heading toward a death spiral.
Its not a death spiral. It is the well-engineered transition to the next phase—full socialized medicine.
They’ll say, “We tried the free market. We tried the managed market. The only thing that can work is single payer.”
EVERY person who voted for Obama is an ENEMY of freedom and should be treated as such. If they are friends, get rid of them. If they are family, shun them. If they are employees, fire them.
9 posted on
10/20/2015 8:56:20 AM PDT by
Bryanw92
(Sic semper tyrannis)
To: SeekAndFind
"Last Thursday, the administration predicted enrollment for 2016 will be less than half what the Congressional Budget Office predicted in March.
Set up for, "2016 enrollments exceeded expectations"
12 posted on
10/20/2015 8:58:29 AM PDT by
Ouchthatonehurt
("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
To: SeekAndFind
Death spiral doesn’t apply to government programs.
13 posted on
10/20/2015 8:59:31 AM PDT by
DungeonMaster
(God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son...)
To: SeekAndFind
Another problem is that ObamaCare allowed children to age 26 to be their parents plans. This demographic is least likely (except pregnancy) to access health care. But instead of subsidizing sick, freeloaders and the elderly, they remain on their parents affordable plan.
To: SeekAndFind
However, the various liberal websites are crowing how there are less uninsured people than before the ACAA and that costs aren’t going up as fast as they were.
See, it worked.
16 posted on
10/20/2015 9:04:06 AM PDT by
wbarmy
(I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
To: SeekAndFind
Meanwhile, on 10/12/2015 the President signed into law HR1624 which was drafted by Democrats, supported by Republicans in the House and Senate, and redefined a small employer as being 1 to 50. This changes ACA and prevents the expansion into the 51-100 sized employers for 1/1/2016.
Hear anything about this in the news anyplace???
See anything in your local paper?
The D’s admitted that ACA places too big of burden to employers.
18 posted on
10/20/2015 9:06:48 AM PDT by
speedracerx
(The fate of our great nation lies in the hands of conservatives!)
To: SeekAndFind
“The president sees the writing on the wall.”
Laughable. He neither sees nor reads.
20 posted on
10/20/2015 9:08:49 AM PDT by
ryan71
(Bibles, Beans and Bullets)
To: SeekAndFind
That didn’t take long...the era of Hope and Change is going out with a whimper.
21 posted on
10/20/2015 9:08:59 AM PDT by
Hotlanta Mike
('You can avoid reality, but you canÂ’t avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.Â’)
To: SeekAndFind
That has been their intention all along, to bring about single-payer.
23 posted on
10/20/2015 9:13:02 AM PDT by
dfwgator
To: SeekAndFind
The death spiral was part of the plan from the beginning. That is why it is imperative that we elect a president that will destroy Obama care, before it becomes a permanent entitlement. There is only one that has been consistently opposed to every aspect of Obamacare from the beginning and that is Cruz.
This is the chance to undo nationalized healthcare under government control - Ted Cruz 2016!
26 posted on
10/20/2015 9:16:01 AM PDT by
DaveyB
(Live free or die!)
To: SeekAndFind
I’ve heard that so many times. I refuse to believe that people not wanting plans, astronomically high premiums, co-ops closing, etc. weren’t party of the original plan. The real end goal was and is single payer.
27 posted on
10/20/2015 9:17:42 AM PDT by
FourPeas
("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
To: SeekAndFind
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
― Margaret Thatcher
30 posted on
10/20/2015 9:22:57 AM PDT by
Jan_Sobieski
(Sanctification)
To: SeekAndFind
ObamaCare is entering its dreaded death spiralAs intended. They openly admitted yeas ago that this was simply the means to get Single Payer done, so that we would all have that VA-quality care. Ugh.
32 posted on
10/20/2015 9:44:51 AM PDT by
Teacher317
(We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
To: SeekAndFind
Single Payer Icebergs ahead, Cap’n!! Lots of ‘em!!!
33 posted on
10/20/2015 9:47:22 AM PDT by
NormsRevenge
(SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
To: SeekAndFind
So why are Trump and all the rest of the candidates, except Ted Cruz, talking about replacing Obamacare and substituting something that either will not work or else will be almost as expensive and will sooner or later enter into a death spiral of it’s own?
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Another “gift” from the Central Planners goes awry.
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