Posted on 11/02/2015 4:39:36 AM PST by marktwain
“I’d wager a .45 FMJ performs better than a 9mm FMJ.”
Depends on your definition of performance, but I would tend to agree.
“Likewise a .45 JHP is going to outperform a 9mm JHP.”
If you look at the penetration, expansion and wound channel data for modern bonded bullet designs there is little difference between the two. When you take into account that the 9mm platform offers greater capacity, lower recoil, smaller size and lighter weight, it is fairly obvious why many are switching to it. I don’t criticize people for carrying any of them. Paying your money and taking your choice is the American way.
“I don’t criticize people for carrying any of them. Paying your money and taking your choice is the American way.”
It depends on what the situation is. If you’re trying to shoot through a windshield then a 9mm probably isn’t best.
If you need to punch through a heavy leather jacket then a .45 JHP may not perform well.
So I say buy one of each.
Bingo.
I have no shortage of anything but time.
Answer: Hornady Critical Duty.
>> against two suspects armed with one Ruger Mini-14.
... and a shotgun. And a .357 revolver, and a Dan Wesson revolver of unspecified caliber. All four of those firearms were fired by the perps in the course of the battle.
But their mini-14 did do most of the damage.
>> mental attitude not size.
Yep. A .45 kicks, but not THAT bad. Same with .357 mag. Controlling either one is a skill that can be acquired by nearly anyone.
Combat is the ultimate arbiter and in my experience, 9mm wounds, .45 kills.
9mm is cheaper. The decision was probably made on those grounds.
You have to man-handle 45, it doesn’t respond well to limp wristed fraddy cats.
Hello stovepipe.
***The destruction likely occurred at Anniston Army Depot.***
In the olden days such items were considered to be Public Property, and when no longer needed sold at auction to the Public. Even the rifles of the Lewis and Clark expedition were sold at public auction upon their return from exploring the North West Louisiana Purchase.
Now days, public property gets a meeting with a machine known as CAPTAIN CRUNCH. if you remember, when it was found M-1 Garands were being destroyed it caused an outcry so they started selling them back to the PUBLIC through the CMP.
***So, little ammunition is found on retail shelves.***
I spent years looking for a nice place in the country where I could shoot to my heart’s content. I found it years ago, yet I’ve not fired many rounds in the last seven years as there is very little replacement ammo on the shelves.
YES, I am hoarding my two boxes of ammo till better times.
10mm ftw.
***The .40 is over-pressured, inaccurate, and a solution to a problem that never really existed.***
I remember 45 years ago when gun magazines were giving glorious reports on the .41 Magnum revolver. Lots of cops were going to it. I never saw a need for it if you had a .44 magnum.
>> 45...doesn’t respond well to limp wristed fraddy cats.
Yes, and the same goes for a 9mm Glock (and probably other makes as well — Glock is the one I know). Limp-wristing WILL cause jams. Once you learn how and why, you can almost make it jam upon request. :-)
But it doesn’t take a big, meaty, Sylvester Stallone wrist to fire a large-caliber semi. It takes a STIFF wrist. Actually a stiff wrist-elbow-shoulder system. A skinny one will do.
>> I never saw a need for it if you had a .44 magnum.
Ha ha. And unlucky punks for targets. :-)
Heck my .32 will jam if you dont hold it correctly. Which can be tough because its so darn small.
Gotta adapt to the "differences", doncha know?
Same stupid reason the US Army decided to ditch a perfectly good 1911 platform and go for an Italian-made pricey POS that fits the hands of the pussies that were complaining.
Male and female.
The men of the US Military, especially in some of the Special Ops, are going back to the very versatile and harder-hitting 1911 platform.
You know, there are just some things that women should keep the hell out of.
Becoming a US Army Ranger and being a USMC Recon team member come to mind.
Thye can stay out the FBI HRT teams, too.
No, I'm not a chauvinist, I'm a realist.
How big are those boxes?
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