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First, we must rein in the cost of college tuition.


Tuition high? Wonder if it could be related to the millionaires working for the UC system? Millions in salaries, millions in benefits, and then millions in retirement.

$991,942 for Mark Laret, chief executive of UC San Francisco’s medical center. Pay scale for five chancellors are: $772,500 for UC San Francisco Samuel Hawgood; $516,446 for UC Berkeley Nicholas Dirks; $441,334 for UCLA Gene Block; $436,120 for UC San Diego Pradeep Khosla; and $424,360 for UC Davis Linda Katehi. UC system’s chief investment officer, Jagdeep Bachher $633,450; UC general counsel, Charles Robinson, $441,334; UC Davis medical center chief executive, Ann Madden Rice, $848,720.

Gotta get one of those state jobs and be a public servant.

1 posted on 01/04/2016 6:18:53 AM PST by artichokegrower
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Get government completely out of the “higher education financing” business. No loans, no guarantees, no grants, etc.

Allow student debt to be discharged in bankruptcy.

Watch tuition rates fall to affordable.

NO TAXPAYER MONEY NEEDED,


2 posted on 01/04/2016 6:23:09 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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If they haven’t learned anything by the end of high school, why on earth would anyone think they will learn something in college?


3 posted on 01/04/2016 6:25:35 AM PST by babble-on
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No problem. Once uncle bernie gets in everything will be free. Work for free, sheep skins for free, gas for free, food for free. Why heck, it’ll be utopia just like previous socio/commie fantasy worlds. Well, at least for the elites.


4 posted on 01/04/2016 6:25:50 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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California is enacting over 800 new laws starting today.

It just gets better and better in this progressive’s utopia.


5 posted on 01/04/2016 6:26:27 AM PST by skeeter
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What a pantload.

First, not everybody belongs in college. We already have legions of college graduates with a bunch of debt and no marketable job skills.

If everybody gets a college degree, a college degree will become worthless.


6 posted on 01/04/2016 6:27:51 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity (Democrat Drinking Game - Every time they mention a new social program, chug someone else's beer.)
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Get rid of the bogus majors like women studies, gay studies, black studies, etc. There are few or no jobs out there for these studies.


7 posted on 01/04/2016 6:29:26 AM PST by Bruce Kurtz
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Westly is just another liberal take-all putz that is gearing up to run for governor. Of course he’s for free shit for voters. Where else?


8 posted on 01/04/2016 6:30:53 AM PST by Gaffer
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Must?


9 posted on 01/04/2016 6:32:54 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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Do they want a cheaper college degree? Eliminate all education subsidies and watch the price collapse. A bunch of professors will have to take huge pay cuts but that’s a plus.


10 posted on 01/04/2016 6:33:12 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Dear boy, you are mighty generous with other peoples money.


12 posted on 01/04/2016 6:35:20 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The Bush family needs to just go away. The Clinton family needs just to go to prison.)
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What California must not guarantee is effective vocational education for the majority for whom liberal arts will not be a life track. The disinformational elites supported shipping our factories off to China. The individual mandate applied to 50 employees small businesses, the class enemies of government. Hacker Lab with design spaces, manufacture machines of numerous types, goes against this grain. North of Sacramento, the Rocklin satellite of Hacker Lab will be taken over by a Sierra College that failed to recruit a replacement machinist instructor of Computer Numeric Control CNC machining so that Sierra College got rid of it machine shop. Now CNC students have to go live out of state to practice their craft. Meanwhile the Sierra College Umoja African American student union is bustling, highly funded. What would have happened if those Black students could have escaped government dependency by becoming CNC machinist journeymen starting at $26? Can’t have that in a California fixated on equality of access, others would be left behind. The Black yeoman class only fit in as Toms.


14 posted on 01/04/2016 6:36:44 AM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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First of all, who’s paying for it? Committing to deliver “free” services means that someone (either teachers or others) must donate those services to someone else. The government has no right (and should not be empowered) to take money from taxpayers to provide a “free” education to citizens.

Second, if the current quality of high school education met the levels of 20 years ago we would not have a progressive government. We’re turning out low information voters who can’t read or write.

Third, if a student gets a free ride they attach no value to the education.

Fourth, academic institutions have no incentive to keep tuitions or performance competitive if they can bloat their organizations and get paid to do it. Hence, very expensive educations funded by debt.

Gee, I could go on...


15 posted on 01/04/2016 6:37:04 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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First, we must rein in the cost of college tuition.


Gee, how about that?

Maybe those lauded professors should actually teach classes too?

16 posted on 01/04/2016 6:37:04 AM PST by onyx
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Clearly lost on this dullards is the fact that when the stupid get dumbed-down college degrees they stand to earn nothing extra.


18 posted on 01/04/2016 6:42:24 AM PST by pabianice (LINE)
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Since the Dems gained monopoly, JC, State and UC costs have greatly increased.

Yet, even at these higher costs, California does offer affordable cost for a college degree.

Before the Dems took over it was almost free.

Writer is a propagandist.

The issue is never the issue.


19 posted on 01/04/2016 6:42:48 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Programming of the human mind by Marxist “professors” is not education.


20 posted on 01/04/2016 6:43:01 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ISIS wants you to Vote Clinton/Huma in 2016. Trump is too scary.)
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California must guarantee an affordable college degree

No problem..that's why we have the money tree...


22 posted on 01/04/2016 6:50:03 AM PST by BerniesFriend (I am BerniesFriend, however it's really Bernadette, NOT Bernie Sanders friend!!!!!!!)
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A college graduate today will earn nearly $1 million more on average over her lifetime than a person who has only graduated from high school.
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Higher income could be more due to the IQ and ambition than the degree.

Charles Murray writes that an IQ of about 115 is needed to have a reasonable chance of graduating from college, and a considerably higher IQ for those in the STEM careers.

24 posted on 01/04/2016 6:53:07 AM PST by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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Education is the most powerful weapon you can use to change the world

What a load of crap.

That was true when Nelson Mandela said it in 2003

Oh, OK, then.

A college graduate today will earn nearly $1 million more on average over her lifetime than a person who has only graduated from high school

Correlation is not causation - and the measuring stick is college graduates in the 1950s compared to HS graduates and dropouts in the 1950s. In the 1950s you had to be smart to go to college, and you had to work hard once you got there. Neither of these things are true in 2016.

25 posted on 01/04/2016 6:53:31 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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People sell this like it's some sort of magic fairy dust or something.

Quite frankly, there isn't much difference in salaries between someone properly trained in an appropriate technical field and someone with a 4 year degree. And for people like me, you also end up in a job you actually enjoy, working with the type of people you like rather than stuck behind a desk, shoveling papers and fighting political wars in a large company.

I went to college for 2 years and dropped out, ran out of money. I mainly quit because I hated school though. Wasted 20 grand (that was 25 years ago too). I spent many days hammering through homework and tests in subjects I really liked, but would provide little for supporting a family. I was focused on math and physics mostly.

I trained myself in a technical field and make more today than most of my college educated friends. I work to stay current and keep my skills up to date and in demand.

Everyone has their own niche. But college isn't really the answer for most people. You train for jobs that don't exist or jobs where there is no demand. I have one friend who is 45 and just managed to pay off his student loans a few years ago, strapped almost all his life and held back by them. Meanwhile, my house is paid off, I buy my vehicles with cash and my kids go to private school... all on a high school diploma. I'm definitely not wealthy, but I'm quite happy that God showed me the right road and gave me the tools to make it on my own.

I will say one thing about college... Coming from a very poor background and living in a rural area, college was a social awakening for me. I didn't even know a black person until college and I got to meet and befriend people from other nations and cultures. It was very valuable for me, at least. I wouldn't pay 20 grand for it again, but that is really the only positive thing I walked away with.

29 posted on 01/04/2016 6:57:39 AM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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