Molôn Labé! ‘Talk’ of Gun Confiscation reference

Reference | 1/5/2016

['smith]

Great list!

[LucyT]

History has shown the 'progression' to be Registration, Confiscation, Annihilation.

The national socialist left has already been clear on the first two...

6 posted on ‎1‎/‎5‎/‎2016‎ ‎9‎:‎05‎:‎23‎ ‎AM by Torcert (Veritas odium paret. (Truth creates hatred.) - Terence)

It is my opinion that, under these EOs, any senior citizen who becomes ill, has to have a hospital stay or take pain medication, have home healthcare or who have a Power of Attorney Order so that their children can help them with business matters, etc., will also have their rights to protect themselves taken away.

Since there are no definitions provided (as usual) any of the above reasons or just about any the Regime cares to state, will be justification. And any senior citizen who lives in government subsidized housing might just as well resign themselves to being corralled in one of those sitting duck, gun free zones.

I've had enough attacks on my rights just because of my age. Bullies and tyrants always pick off the weakest first.

7 posted on ‎1‎/‎5‎/‎2016‎ ‎9‎:‎05‎:‎47‎ ‎AM by Aleya2Fairlie

Check out article.

(Those who seek to DISARM US, seek to HARM US.) .

[Torcert]

Thank You - please do me a favour and share it with everyone you can.

Obama even lied today about no one wanting to grab guns.

[Aleya2Fairlie]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HOMELESSNESS_MANDATING_SHELTER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-01-04-21-26-36

This article about forcible removal of homeless people from the street might seem unrelated. But if you have the patience to read it all; it will demonstrate the mindset that gives government the “right” to take away freedoms based on their definition of what constitutes mental illness. The implications are indeed chilling. It has begun and on several fronts. May the Almighty help us.

[Pollster1]

Protecting guns:

Step 1 - vote, and get patriotic neighbors out to vote; have a list of neighbors who are conservative, and remind them to vote, providing transportation if needed

Step 2 - do not register your guns, buy and sell at gun shows or otherwise outside the formal record system so that there is no government record of what you have

Step 3 - when it’s time to hide/bury your guns, it’s time for a different response entirely

Step 4 - teach your own children to shoot, teach other children to shoot, teach young adults to shoot, expand the number of people who enjoy shooting so that we will remain the majority (the socialists see this as a very long term struggle, and we have a moral obligation to protect the next generation and the generation after that)

As a charter member of the Free Republic Canoe Club, I enjoy the standard joke as much as anyone, but if you actually need that excuse, it’s too late (for your guns, for your freedom, for your children, and for America). Obama is by far the most evil person ever to set foot in our White House, but he represents his voters. There are a lot of Americans who want tyranny, since they think they will get more than their share of the loot that an unrestrained government can take from innocent victims. We need to make sure that is never again the majority.

[sergeantdave]

Although you’ve listed a small number of articles that highlight your premise - Leftists want to confiscate your arms - it doesn’t necessarily follow that all leftists want their arms taken away.

For instance, look at this example that you link to:

Mar 24, 2012
Yes conservatives, we want to take away your guns...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/24/1077374/-Yes-conservatives-we-want-to-take-away-your-guns

Here’s one comment following this article:

“You really ought to recuse yourself from the issue of firearms until you know what the hell you’re talking about.
You obviously don’t.”

Many other leftists who read this DailyKos article commented in a similar fashion in very colorful language that can’t be repeated here.

Documenting the leftist mantra about gun confiscation may be a worthwhile endeavor, but confiscation and who is for it, I believe, is an extremely complex question that can’t be easily answered.

I guess my point is that not all leftists, even though the call for confiscation mostly originates from the left, favor confiscation.

Maybe you could document calls for confiscation from politicians and public figures. That gives us figurative targets to shoot at. And those two groups mentioned above are certainly the money and brains behind the confiscation movement who need to be disarmed and wrecked on the reefs.

Good luck.

[Torcert]

I have no doubt that will just be the beginning.

Recall what happened in the old Soviet union where they would decide dissidents were mentally ill and institutionalize them.

You can best believe this won’t be the end of the issue, after the next few exploitative incidents, you can well wager that his majesty will be back one again to dictate more new laws.

[Torcert]

Yes, I had seen that referenced on another site but hadn’t delved into the details of the story, thank you for bringing to my attention.

It’s sound eerily similar to Obama’s actions via executive order, and it should be clear to all that we are on a slippery slope to tyranny.

May the Almighty help us. - Ditto on that score.

[danamco]

What were the Founding Fathers “requirements” to own fire arms???

[Torcert]

Protecting guns:

Step 1 - vote, and get patriotic neighbors out to vote; have a list of neighbors who are conservative, and remind them to vote, providing transportation if needed

Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. I know it's a cliche - but this time around, this election will determine the course of history for well neigh 100 years.

Step 2 - do not register your guns, buy and sell at gun shows or otherwise outside the formal record system so that there is no government record of what you have

Yes - people need be reminded this over and over. This is part of the reason I put some much work into this document - I want to make it clear to all that the national socialist left has the ultimate goal of confiscating guns.

Step 3 - when it's time to hide/bury your guns, it's time for a different response entirely

I know the saying that when the time comes to bury your guns, it's actually the time to use them. There is a lot of wisdom in that sentiment.
My only equivocation on that point would be to have one or more sets of firearms - one to have at the ready and one hidden away. Thus you have the best of both worlds. The bottom line on that is that the 'powers that be' cannot be assured of getting all the guns, and therefore would act as deterrent.

Step 4 - teach your own children to shoot, teach other children to shoot, teach young adults to shoot, expand the number of people who enjoy shooting so that we will remain the majority (the socialists see this as a very long term struggle, and we have a moral obligation to protect the next generation and the generation after that)

As a charter member of the Free Republic Canoe Club, I enjoy the standard joke as much as anyone, but if you actually need that excuse, it's too late (for your guns, for your freedom, for your children, and for America). Obama is by far the most evil person ever to set foot in our White House, but he represents his voters. There are a lot of Americans who want tyranny, since they think they will get more than their share of the loot that an unrestrained government can take from innocent victims. We need to make sure that is never again the majority.

Yes, I agree wholeheartedly on that as well. Yes, I'm doing the best I can to fight the good fight - including volunteering for political and gun rights campaigns.

[Torcert]

1. One could hardly say that was a small number - that was quite a few, and given that the lie from the national socialist left is that no one is talking about confiscating guns.

Or as the Dear Leader stated today on his dictation of new laws: "This is not a plot to take away everybody's guns"

2. That was but the first example from several years ago - and I did note that it was albeit a 'Moderate' viewpoint.

As trends the show, that 'Moderate' viewpoint has changed over the years to what was exemplified by one of the last items:

It's Time to Ban Guns. Yes, All of Them New Republic

The bottom line is we cannot take a chance of losing liberty to the national socialist left

[Alas Babylon!]

Did you read this one?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/5/1427845/-Effective-Gun-Control-A-National-Semi-Auto-Ban

The KOS POS 43North wants to have a “Night of the Long Knives” where the National Guard and BATFAG come out and in one night or week (not sure of his timeline) take EVERYONE’S guns, killing any and all who oppose them, while having a complete media and Internet blackout while this happens.

President Obama then goes on the air announcing that he’s “solved” the gun problem and now private gun ownership is illegal.

In fact, 43North advocates shooting on sight any white male within 25 yards of a firearm “just in case”, while having the King’s Thug who shot him say “I thought he was going for his gun” while smirking and elbowing his compatriots.

43North states he was in Afghanistan, and what he’s proposing is how he dealt with village elders so it would be “easy”. And any judge or Republican politician who objected would simply be exterminated by the Obama administration’s henchmen right then and there.

He doesn’t seem to think that anyone would dare fight back against the military or police and if we did, we’d be no more effective than individuals nutcases or small bands of terrorists. I don’t know what unit he was in or if in fact he was ever in the military, but I know a lot of troops from Southern states who would frag anybody actually trying to implement such a—in reality—Soviet or Nazi style scenario against their own countrymen.

All of this government fascist law-breaking and total disregard for the Constitution is justified, in his eyes, because Bush did it first with the Patriot Act.

Read it an weep, folks. You worst totalitarian nightmare as proposed by a typical slack-jawed American Leftist yout.

What really gets me is very few find the idea appalling, most just doubt the logistics/timetable. None have problems with the outright murder and fascism because the intended victims are Republicans, rednecks and gunowners.

[sergeantdave]

“In fact, 43North advocates shooting on sight any white male within 25 yards of a firearm “just in case”

LOL!

Another leftist comicbook reader who fantasizes about committing mass murder. Probably runs around his mommy’s basement with a cape and Guy Fawkes mask while waiting for his hot chocolate and animal crackers.

[PLMerite]

“...where the National Guard and BATFAG come out and in one night or week (not sure of his timeline) take EVERYONE’S guns, killing any and all who oppose them, while having a complete media and Internet blackout while this happens.”

But how would they explain all those dead Feds the next day?

[Alas Babylon!]

But how would they explain all those dead Feds the next day?

How would that happen? Don't you know the slack-jawed Chrisitan Rednecks would break down into tears and plead for their very lives, like Afghani Tribal elders? All those tough, leftist federal agents who avow their oath to the Constitution, you know, like in those Marvel movies, so they can crack some hillbilly Republican skulls? He's seen it! It is so!

[PLMerite]

I used to work with military folks. Every once in a while I’d get one who thought like that. Then I explained the realities of the scenario. They looked at me differently afterwards.

[combat_boots]

bttt

[Torcert]

BTW, I'm still eagerly awaiting your response to my comments.

You said that

Although you've listed a small number of articles that highlight your premise - Leftists want to confiscate your arms - it doesn't necessarily follow that all leftists want their arms taken away.

I counted out around 30 different instances of the national socialist left calling for Gun Confiscation, Gun bans and repealing the second amendment or praising those action therein.

With one addition from yesterday:

Obama Praises Gun Policy of Totalitarian Communist Dictatorship https://shar.es/166QCq via @sharethis

And you label it a 'small number'?

What would you consider to be a 'Large number'?

Here we have most of the major publications of the national socialist media calling for the destruction of a basic natural and civil right and you try to diminish that threat with the characterization that it was a 'small number of articles'?

How many would it take to convince you that the national socialist left wants to confiscate guns?

40?, 50? 100? What is the magic number?

Then you further try to diminish the threat delving into the first and oldest example.

Did you investigate the rest of those items?

Even if you assume that an article entitled 'Yes conservatives, we want to take away your guns...'wasn't about taking away guns that's 1 versus 29 or 30 other instances.
[And I'm sure there will be more to come, the day and the year are still early]

[CodeToad]

[sergeantdave]

Not criticizing you, buddy. I just offered a suggestion to perhaps make your plan better.

Do what you want and see how it turns out.

Fair winds and a following sea.