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Natural Born Citizenship: An archaic presidential qualification
American Thinker ^ | 01/12/2016 | Jonathan F. Keller

Posted on 01/12/2016 6:34:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: RummyChick
Read it again and see if you can figure out why lowering the bar for one person may not be a good thing.

I'm not suggesting we lower the bar. I happen to like the bar being high. I'm just saying that since we let Obama get away with it implement rampant liberal insanity, we should let Ted Cruz get away with it to implement a massive clean up effort to Obama's insanity.

If you think our bigger crises is that some time in the future we might allow a horrible President because we punt on the "natural born citizen" issue, then you do not grasp the scope of the current crises.

If we do not fix some of this mess right now, we aren't going to have a nation, so we won't need to worry about the possibility of a future unqualified president, because we won't have a functional nation left for him to govern.

Yes, I like the "natural born citizen" requirement, but in the bigger scheme of things, it's not the most serious problem we are facing. All the current "natural citizen" candidates will not FIX the problems we are having with the Judiciary.

I think Trump would fix foreign policy. I think he would fix immigration. I think he would fix the budget, the out of control EPA and IRS, etc. and a lot of other things. But would he fix the judiciary? I very much doubt it.

Only Ted Cruz will fix that. He is the only one I would trust to do it.

41 posted on 01/12/2016 7:16:13 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: SeekAndFind
If so, why was John McCain the nominee?

Because only he couldn't attack obama on his ineligibility.

42 posted on 01/12/2016 7:16:31 AM PST by null and void (This war starts in the spiritual realm-it will end in ours though.)
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To: mountainlion

As opposed to the one we have now?


43 posted on 01/12/2016 7:17:36 AM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: RummyChick

That’s his best qualification in my opinion. The left hates him, the establishment hates him, therefore he is likely what we need.


44 posted on 01/12/2016 7:18:19 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: justlittleoleme
You've had The Tee Dee Ess fer quite a spell, haven't you?

You'll get better, bless your heart. :)

45 posted on 01/12/2016 7:19:19 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Fantasywriter
How can anyone who's lived through seven nightmarish Obama years ask that question? He is the exact kind of citizen the Founders wanted to prevent worming their way into the WH, and destroying the country from within.

Exactly. Little Barry bastard is exactly the sort of Un-American foreign minded douche that the founders wanted to prevent ever attaining access to power. Article II was written to keep garbage like Obama out of office.

46 posted on 01/12/2016 7:20:43 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: justlittleoleme

Great pic, I hocked it, hope you don’t mind. I agree with you. Trump is a dem not a Conservative. To volital, at 69 sure fire way for a heart attack. Showman, and we have enough evidence that he is a dem at heart. How much more proof do we need, I’m sure there is more on google than what is here.

If you want perfect then you are going to have to vote for Jesus Christ. As He is the only perfect GOD made man.

2 Timothy 4:3 KJV
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

Trump Drops big wad of cash on VA Dem Gov..gun grabber.
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpoliticalticker.blogs.cnn.com%2F2009%2F04%2F16%2Fbig-name-donors-fuel-mcauliffes-bid-for-virginia-governor%2F&h=1AQFHeruC

Trumps only record is 5 party changes, donates heavily to DEMONRATS. And is doing it while campaigning for GOP President.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/03/donald-trump-donated-heavily-to-democrats-especially-during-election-which-put-reid-and-pelosi-in-power/

Donald Trump’s Eminent Domain Love Nearly Cost a Widow Her House (Private use) not public good

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/donald-trumps-eminent-domain-love-nearly-cost-widow-her-house

http://newswatchreport.com/item/231893_breaking-news-obama-orders-hammond-ranch-destroyed

Trump history of being big Dem donator
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-donation-history-shows-democratic-favoritism/2011/04/25/AFDUddtE_story.html

Trump donates to VA GUV GUN GRABBER WHILE RUNNING FOR GOP PRESIDENTIAL TICKET.

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/346374/did-you-know-terry-mcauliffe-took-25000-donald-trump

Trump Gives ‘Amazing’ NoKo ‘Maniac’ Kim Jong Un ‘Credit’ for Strong Leadership
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http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/1961%20Kenyan%20Birth%20Certificate%20of%20Barack%20Hussein%20Obama%20II,%20Copy.pdf

Trump in ‘04: ‘I probably identify more as Democrat’
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/21/politics/donald-trump-election-democrat/

About one in five Democrats would vote for TRUMP, poll finds

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3392320/Look-Hillary-one-five-Democrats-vote-TRUMP-poll-finds.html#ixzz3wuDG3mIN


47 posted on 01/12/2016 7:21:23 AM PST by GailA (any politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: SeekAndFind
The McCain thing is a bid tricky, I consider McCain a natural born citizen (NBC) but in a strict interpretation of the law he might not be. Lets review the facts

McCain father was a NBC serving in the US Navy at the Panama canal zone (PCZ). McCain mother is a NBC also. The PCZ was at the time of McCain birth a US territory. However being born in the PCZ did not confer US citizenship until some time in the 1930s. So the argument can be made that McCains' US citizenship is via statute and therefore is not natural. I disagree. Two NBC parents in the service of their country born in a US territory is good enough for me.

48 posted on 01/12/2016 7:22:05 AM PST by jpsb
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To: SeekAndFind; orinoco
Is it still needed? or should it be amended?

I believe the current administration as clearly, unequivocally, and unambiguously demonstrates that the singular office of president of these United States MUST only be held by someone with no HINT no Scintilla of divided loyalties.

Case in point: obama rejected the Keystone pipeline for years and just recently approved financial support for an oil pipeline in Kenya...

49 posted on 01/12/2016 7:22:40 AM PST by null and void (This war starts in the spiritual realm-it will end in ours though.)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie
Well actually Trump hasn't actually been a resident of Republicanville until recently. But he has visited it a few times as a tourist destination.

I think he is a running as a Republican because he decided he had a better chance to win if he ran as a Republican, not because of his "conservative values"

He has been all over the map.

Donald Trump voter registration:
Republican (2012–present)
Independent (2011–12)
Republican (2009–11)
Democratic (2001–09)
Reform (1999–2001)
Republican (1987–99)
Democratic (Before–1987)

A person's history tends to predict what he will do in the future.

50 posted on 01/12/2016 7:22:44 AM PST by justlittleoleme (CRUZ OR LOSE)
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To: null and void; SeekAndFind
Because only he couldn't attack obama on his ineligibility.

Hey now! Watch the cynicism!

Next, you'll be noticing, like another poster did, that the Republicans lost a number of easy-to-win Senate races in 2014.

I inadvertently became cynical, and suggested that it was because the Uniparty didn't want to have a veto override majority in the US Senate.

My bad. :)

51 posted on 01/12/2016 7:22:50 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: mountainlion

But the voters would be too canny to elect a candidate named Hussein whose goal was to promote Islam and destroy the US.


52 posted on 01/12/2016 7:22:53 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: rktman

Are you that obtuse in real life, or merely attempting humor?


53 posted on 01/12/2016 7:24:06 AM PST by null and void (This war starts in the spiritual realm-it will end in ours though.)
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To: GailA

Thanks for sharing your Dad’s military history with us, and your support of our constitution.


54 posted on 01/12/2016 7:24:58 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe/RINOs/the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass!!!)
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To: RummyChick

the Marxist globalist left never passes up an opportunity to weaken our constitution. They would absolutely love to void the NBC clause and open the door more presidents like we have now.


55 posted on 01/12/2016 7:25:06 AM PST by jpsb
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To: SeekAndFind
Natural Born Citizenship: An archaic presidential qualification

Our experience with Barack Obama teaches us the exact opposite.

The future safety and security of this free republic requires the strictest interpretation of the natural born requirement, and We the People must demand it.

56 posted on 01/12/2016 7:25:24 AM PST by EternalVigilance ('A man without force is without the essential dignity of humanity.' - Frederick Douglass)
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To: null and void

RE: I believe the current administration as clearly, unequivocally, and unambiguously demonstrates that the singular office of president of these United States MUST only be held by someone with no HINT no Scintilla of divided loyalties.

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Well, that’s little comfort.

I’m sure Hillary and John Kerry are natural born citizens but I highly doubt their loyalty to this country.

Being a natural born citizen does not necessarily protect us from divided loyalties.


57 posted on 01/12/2016 7:26:21 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: null and void

It was a lame attempt at humor. But it is Tuesday. I think. :>)


58 posted on 01/12/2016 7:27:32 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: justlittleoleme

59 posted on 01/12/2016 7:28:05 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe/RINOs/the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who cares how they want to change it. There’s something wrong with wanting to change it.

It took us to the 21st century (barely), it won two world wars, took over the Industrial Revolution, has driven the world economy from the mid 1800’s through the Internet bubble of late 1990s, took us into orbit, then further to the moon, and it was an American and American money and engineering that put us on the moon.

American innovation was not a platitude. It was a fact. Now, not so much as special interest and loose IP laws that favor big money, unions that favor socialist / communist agendas.


60 posted on 01/12/2016 7:28:53 AM PST by Fhios (How about we call it a a war on sharia law?)
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