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Posted on 01/18/2016 1:09:41 PM PST by Theo
The conservative apologists for Donald Trump, and sadly there are some, protest that using his 1999 interview with the late Tim Russert, in which Trump vividly and unabashedly lays out his New York City liberalism, isn't fair game given the time elapsed since then.
Fair enough. Being that it was sixteen years ago, and even in another century and all, perhaps they have a point? We have to leave room for human beings to evolve, right? Do all of us believe all of the same things we believed sixteen years ago? I mean this was so long ago that Trump hadn't yet launched his disastrous presidential run for Ross Perot's Reform Party.
So let's make like the bankruptcy laws Trump readily admits he uses to his advantage, and cut a billionaire some slack. How about 2010? Is that too far back? What about, oh, I don't know ... 2015?
The truth is you don't have to go way back to find that Trump always has been, and remains to this day, a typical New York City liberal. This explains why Trump so often engages in liberal tactics like victim blaming, blame-shifting, demagoguery, dishonesty, etc. And he does so usually through the exact same liberal media other liberals use. But don't just take my word for it. Here's Trump in his own words:
If you think using Trump's 1999 interview where he admits his liberalism is unfair because it's too long ago, how about when Trump joined Bernie Sanders in advocating for a taxpayer-funded, single-payer healthcare system in 2015?
Sourced here.
If you think using Trump's 1999 interview in which he admits his liberalism is unfair because it's too long ago, how about when the baby-killers at Planned Parenthood named Trump their "favorite Republican" in 2015?
Sourced here.
If you think using Trump's 1999 interview where he admits his liberalism is unfair because it's too long ago, how about when Trump failed to support religious liberty in 2015? Sourced here.
If you think using Trump's 1999 interview where he admits his liberalism is unfair because it's too long ago, how about when Trump said he wouldn't tear up Obama's Faustian Bargain with Iran back in 2015?
Sourced here.
If you think using Trump's 1999 interview where he admits his liberalism is unfair because it's too long ago, how about when Trump sounded like an anti-Israel liberal (claiming Israel may not want peace and will have to give up even more to Islamists) in 2015?
Sourced here and here.
If you think using Trump's 1999 interview where he admits his liberalism is unfair because it's too long ago, how about when Trump came out for a 45% tariff on imported Chinese goods in 2015 (and then lied about it in last week's GOP debate)?
Sourced here.
By the way, polls show middle and lower-middle class Americans are most likely to support Trump. They would be the ones most devastated by Trump's tariff scheme, because the higher cost of goods they buy at big box stores like Wal-Mart and Target would be passed on to them.
But I digress.
If you think using Trump's 1999 interview where he admits his liberalism is unfair because it's too long ago, how about when Trump donated $50,000 to Obamaista Rahm "never let a good crisis go to waste" Emanuel in 2010?
Sourced here.
If you think using Trump's 1999 interview where he admits his liberalism is unfair because it's too long ago, how about when despite all his tough immigration talk, Trump came out for amnesty in 2015?
Sourced here.
If you think using Trump's 1999 interview where he admits his liberalism is unfair because it's too long ago, how about when Trump used his pro-baby killing sister as an example of the type of Supreme Court justices he'd appoint in 2015?
Sourced here.
Here's the bottom line -- there's not a single issue on which Trump is a credible conservative.
Not. A. Single. One.
Trump was a typical New York City liberal back in 1999, and he's still a typical New York City liberal now. That's why Trump's campaign has empty platitudes instead of substance, and has to resort to the same smear tactics as the Left - because Trump can't win a real debate on the issues.
So why are some conservatives still defending this typical New York City liberal?
11. He supports open borders and centrally planned global economy.
..voting Cruz, would support Trump.
Ted Cruz is the real conservative drinking in the Goldman Sachs trough. Actually he is drowning in it. We just won’t look at that.
WEll except for falling off the wagon and loving Rubio like a fat girl loves candy. Remember him saying that Rubio is a true conservative? Yeh that’s the ticket. LOL!
You’re correct. People need to understand that he is the only one saying these things. It feels good when he says make America great again. Comparing Trump to Cruz is not a good comparison because their backgrounds are so different. Trump being a businessman had to play nice I am sure with people he didn’t like in order to get his deals done. Cruz has been a politician his entire life. It’s easy to see his voting record. Don’t get me wrong, I’d vote Cruz in a heartbeat however I’m not sure he could beat a dem. He doesn’t have the name recognition nor the backing that Trump has. Trump may be the closest we can get to a conservative into the White House. Still hoping for a Trump/Cruz ticket.
Yep.
Now here are bonafide facts on Trumpâs record...
Trump supported Kelo, Single payer health care, Ethanol subsidies, Planned Parenthood, confiscatory taxes on the rich, opposition of Medicare/Social Security reform, enhanced gun control, Wall Street/bank bailouts as well as a history on multiple documented occasions of donating to Democrat campaigns/causes over the years
Also Trumpâs praise first of Romney for his gentle approach to illegal immigrants, then later slammed him for being too tough and also badmouthing Republicans for being mean spirited in their approach to illegal immigration a scant 3 years ago should raise serious questions.
Trump has exhibited numerous legitimate verifiable anti-conservative positions over the last 2 decades. Now we’re to believe none of that matters?
And he supports eminent domain for personal gain.
funny that people condemn Cruz for essentially borrowing his own money when his opponent, Trump, was perfectly comfortable working with banks for decades and for letting them bail him out of multiple messes:
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/12/28/trumps-attacks-raise-eyebrows-on-wall-street.html
I donât have any issue with Trump for using bankers (and in the case of the Taj Majal using junk bonds to finance the deal at 14% which led to bankruptcy), nor do I have any issue with him using bankruptcy to protect himself. I do have an issue with his supporters calling the âkettle blackâ by not acknowledging that their guy, Trump, has a long, long history with bankers and banks that goes far beyond any that Cruz has.
I think a lot of 'conservatives' have been hoping for a republican version of 0bama and have found their 'conservative' messiah in the form of Trump. The only difference between Trump and 0bama, politically speaking, is the left wing vs right wing rhetoric. Other than that its the same vapid "hope and change" all over again.
Trump can do abortions in the Lincoln bedroom if he builds the wall.
It is intellectually dishonest for anyone to say or believe liberal Donald Trump would appoint a conservative to the court.
You post the same thing on every thread. Seminarian.
Overview of many of Trumps positions and plans:
1.) Trump believes that America should not intervene militarily in other countryâs problems without being compensated for doing so. If America is going to risk the lives of our soldiers and incur the expense of going to war, then the nations we help must be willing to pay for our help. Using the Iraq War as an example, he cites the huge monetary expense to American taxpayers (over $1.5 trillion, and possibly much more depending on what sources are used to determine the cost) in addition to the cost in human life. He suggests that Iraq should have been required to give us enough of their oil to pay for the expenses we incurred. He includes in those expenses the medical costs for our military and $5 million for each family that lost a loved one in the war and $2 million for each family of soldiers who received severe injuries.
2.) Speaking of the military, Trump wants America to have a strong military again. He believes the single most important function of the federal government is national defense. He has said he wants to find the General Patton or General MacArthur that could lead our military buildup back to the strength it needs to be. While he hasnât said it directly that I know of, Trumpâs attitude about America and about winning tells me heâd most likely be quick to eliminate rules of engagement that handicap our military in battle. Clearly Trump is a âwin at all costsâ kind of guy, and Iâm sure that would apply to our national defense and security, too.
3.) Trump wants a strong foreign policy and believes that it must include 8 core principles (which seem to support my comment in the last point):
American interests come first. Always. No apologies.
Maximum firepower and military preparedness.
Only go to war to win.
Stay loyal to your friends and suspicious of your enemies.
Keep the technological sword razor sharp.
See the unseen.
Prepare for threats before they materialize.
Respect and support our present and past warriors.
4.) Trump believes that terrorists who are captured should be treated as military combatants, not as criminals like the Obama administration treats them.
5.) Trump makes the point that Chinaâs manipulation of their currency has given them unfair advantage in our trade dealings with them. He says we must tax their imports to offset their currency manipulation, which will cause American companies to be competitive again and drive manufacturing back to America and create jobs here. Although he sees China as the biggest offender, he believes that America should protect itself from all foreign efforts to take our jobs and manufacturing. For example, Ford is building a plant in Mexico and Trump suggests that every part or vehicle Ford makes in Mexico be taxed 35% if they want to bring it into the U. S., which would cause companies like Ford to no longer be competitive using their Mexican operations and move manufacturing back to the U. S., once again creating jobs here.
6.) Trump wants passage of NOPEC legislation (No Oil Producing and Exporting Cartels Act â NOPEC â S.394), which would allow the government to sue OPEC for violating antitrust laws. According to Trump, that would break up the cartel. He also wants to unleash our energy companies to drill domestically (sound like Sarah Palinâs drill baby, drill?) thereby increasing domestic production creating jobs and driving domestic costs of oil and gas down while reducing dependence on foreign oil.
7.) Trump believes a secure border is critical for both security and prosperity in America. He wants to build a wall to stop illegals from entering put controls on immigration. (And he says heâll get Mexico to pay for the wall, which many have scoffed at, but given his business successes I wouldnât put it past him.) He also wants to enforce our immigration laws and provide no path to citizenship for illegals.
8.) Trump wants a radical change to the tax system to not only make it better for average Americans, but also to encourage businesses to stay here and foreign businesses to move here. The resulting influx of money to our nation would do wonders for our economy. He wants to make America the place to do business. He also wants to lower the death tax and the taxes on capital gains and dividends. This would put more than $1.6 trillion back into the economy and help rebuild the 1.5 million jobs weâve lost to the current tax system. He also wants to charge companies who outsource jobs overseas a 20% tax, but for those willing to move jobs back to America they would not be taxed. And for citizens he has a tax plan that would allow Americans to keep more of what they earn and spark economic growth. He wants to change the personal income tax to:
Up to $30,000 taxed at 1%From $30,000 to $100,000 taxed at 5%From $100,000 to $1,000,000 taxed at 10%$1,000,000 and above taxed at 15%
9.) Trump wants Obamacare repealed. He says itâs a âjob-killing, health care-destroying monstrosityâ that âcanât be reformed, salvaged, or fixed.â He believes in allowing real competition in the health insurance marketplace to allow competition to drive prices down. He also believes in tort reform to get rid of defensive medicine and lower costs.
10.) Trump wants spending reforms in Washington, acknowledging that America spends far more than it receives in revenue. He has said he believes that if we donât stop increasing the national debt once it hits $24 trillion it will be impossible to save this country. Even though he says we need to cut spending, he does not want to harm those on Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. He believes that the citizens have faithfully paid in to the system to have these services available and that the American government has an obligation to fulfill its end of the bargain and provide those benefits. Therefore, he wants to build the economy up so that we have the revenue to pay those costs without cutting the benefits to the recipients. He disagrees with Democrats who think raising taxes is the answer and says that when you do that you stifle the economy. On the other hand, when you lower taxes and create an environment to help businesses they will grow, hire more workers, and those new workers will be paying taxes that become more tax revenue for the government.
11.) Trump also wants reform of the welfare state saying that America needs âa safety net, not a hammock.â He believes in a welfare to work program that would help reduce the welfare roles and encourage people to get back to work. And he wants a crackdown on entitlement fraud.
12.) Trump believes climate change is a hoax.
13.) Trump opposes Common Core.
14.) Trump is pro-life, although he allows for an exception due to rape, incest, or the life of the mother.
15.) Trump is pro 2nd Amendment rights.
16.) Trumpâs view on same-sex marriage is that marriage is between a man and a woman, but he also believes that this is a statesâ rights issue, not a federal issue.
17.) Trump supports the death penalty.
And so since Trump is not the credible conservative, who is?
Spot on.
Using a bank to finance construction is one thing, looking to a bank to finance a political campaign is another. Especially when is comes time for another bailout.
Everything is fair game in politics. Take the hits. Hit back.
And I doubt he would impose the tariffs he proposes. It would kill his shirt business. His brand name shirts are manufactured in Bangladesh. (I know, he’s so rich he doesn’t give a rip about his shirt business, right?).
Please do not sit home.
Had Ted sponsored any anti-bankster legislation?
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