Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 01/19/2016 7:16:18 PM PST by Kaslin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: Kaslin

Nullification is sound and valid when done for correct reasons. Like anything else it could be abused or used for terrible reasons. No different than anything else.

Same with jury nullification. When done against an unjust law, it works. When done to let an obvious murderer go free for rscial payback, that’s where it breaks down.

But just because sometimes assh0les use it incorrectly it doesn’t mean its not valid or it shold go away. If so you’ve just sided with the gun grabbers in their logic.


2 posted on 01/19/2016 7:22:11 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Nullification = I will obey the law if I feel like it. No orderly society can survive on that basis.


3 posted on 01/19/2016 7:28:11 PM PST by NRx (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
Acceptance of nullification by the federal government with respect to states and cities can be seen in the federal government's refusal to direct actions against states and cities that flaunt Federal laws on drugs and/or immigration.

False comparison.

Congress is delegated power over immigration by I.8.4 => 'To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States'

Congress is delegated no such power over intrastate drug laws. That is, unless the author wants to defend the fraudulent New Deal Commerce Clause, which has basically nullified the Tenth Amendment.

So which does the author support - the fraudulent Commerce Clause, or the Tenth Amendment?

8 posted on 01/19/2016 7:40:17 PM PST by Ken H
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

i’m sorry this country is gone


9 posted on 01/19/2016 7:42:45 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
Why cannot our universities practice segregation via ignoring the Federal Housing Act of 1968, discriminate in hiring by requiring specific racial makeup for employment, and/or severely limiting free speech?

Not saying I endorse these particulars--or in any particular direction--but they were considered simple exercises of the right to free association and free speech until about 60 years ago. There's nothing sacred about the subsequent Federal nullification of the rights of the States and the people to exercise these rights.

Nullification is a self-solving problem: You don't want a sub-entity like a state to flip you and your Federal law the bird? Work out an agreement with them using the institution designed for that: the U.S. Congress. Don't try to run around Congress by pretending the President and the Federal courts have authority they don't.

13 posted on 01/19/2016 7:52:02 PM PST by SamuraiScot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Article 5 mofo.... wreck them all


15 posted on 01/19/2016 7:59:11 PM PST by Porterville (Methink'st thou art a general offence and every man should beat thee.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
Marijuana is illegal at the Fed level...not so much at the state level. It begs the question of nullification why not at the sovereign individual level.
18 posted on 01/19/2016 8:36:10 PM PST by stylin19a
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
. . . cities that flaunt Federal laws . . .

flout not flaunt

Stopped reading right there.

FLAUNT is a good vanity plate for a Lamborghini. Saw it on a Rolls once.

19 posted on 01/19/2016 8:47:27 PM PST by goldbux (CDO / I may have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, but at least I put the letters in correct sequence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
(Note that neither a respectful letter requesting amplification of the ability of this university to move forward with their housing plan under the Fair Housing Act of 1968 did not result in any response nor did an e-mail request for information regarding current housing demographics. [...])

The double-negative makes it difficult to understand the meaning of this sentence.

Regards,

22 posted on 01/19/2016 8:57:37 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
Nullification is a constitutional theory that a state has the right to nullify, or invalidate, any federal law which that state has deemed unconstitutional.

It's theory like birtherism and the idea you don't really have to pay your income taxes, an invalid theory.

25 posted on 01/19/2016 9:41:26 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Nullification is not a theory. It’s a legal principle.

The states formed the federal government. Not the other way around. A state can nullify whatever federal law it wants. The federal government then has to decide if and how it will enforce said law.


26 posted on 01/19/2016 9:56:19 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Article Six requires every officer of government, at every level of government, to swear an oath to support the Constitution.

If keeping that oath amounts to nullification, so be it.

But the real issue should be the oath, and the Constitution, not the act of nullification.

It is one of the first principles of western civilization that laws which violate the laws of nature are null and void. And it is a first principle of our republic that all laws which violate the Constitution are no law at all. They must be ignored if our office-holders are to keep their own oaths. If this is not true, then the oath itself is a mockery and a crime, as Chief Justice John Marshall pointed out so strongly and clearly in the earliest days of the republic.


28 posted on 01/19/2016 10:04:05 PM PST by EternalVigilance
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
Where does nullification by government and governmental entities lead? It leads to nullification by our institutions and ultimately, perhaps to nullification in everyday life by everyday folk, the classic slippery slope.

The 55MPH speed limit did that decades ago.

29 posted on 01/19/2016 11:11:27 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

bfl


30 posted on 01/19/2016 11:23:59 PM PST by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
This column is a case study of Lockean principles applied to our current woeful condition.

The societal compact, the Constitutional government designed to secure our liberty is no more; it is dissolved. Society is expected to follow the compact which the government ignores.

In its place is raw violence on our freedoms. The creature in Washington is in a State of Nature and State of War with the people.

The sovereign people have every God-given right to frame government. We must reassert free government very soon.

There is little time.

31 posted on 01/20/2016 1:04:42 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V - Our de facto constitution needs a deep cleaning.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

I’m a big fan of nullification until we get FedGov back inside its proper constitutional limits. Better too much nullification than no recourse at all when thugs like Obama take power.


33 posted on 01/20/2016 1:28:11 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rustbucket; 4CJ

Ping


34 posted on 01/20/2016 1:32:37 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Vote Tom Hoefling of America's Party for President the only party to restore the Republic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Nullification is what the Feral Gubmint is doing now anyway...


37 posted on 01/20/2016 4:43:58 AM PST by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

nullification, in the 1800s, states attempted to ignore Federal legislation ranging from the Alien & Sedition Acts to certain federal tariffs to the Fugitive Slave Act. The theory has never been legally upheld by federal courts.

Isn’t that the point? Do you expect the Federal Tyrant to agree that they have over stepped their authority?


38 posted on 01/20/2016 8:02:35 AM PST by Glad2bnuts (Go Cruz GO, scare the RINO's to death)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

I prefer interposition, myself.


42 posted on 01/20/2016 10:43:55 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson