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1 posted on 02/02/2016 8:11:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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The author then uses the same schtick that “Christian” homosexuals use:

“They claim to be Christians, yet Jesus never once condemned homosexuality, and discrimination is not a Christian value. Ashers’ religious justifications are, to my mind, theologically unsound.”


2 posted on 02/02/2016 8:12:42 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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a day late and a dollar short


3 posted on 02/02/2016 8:13:06 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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I getting sick of this ‘I’m _____, and here’s why’. Sounds too much like the cabana boy.


4 posted on 02/02/2016 8:13:40 AM PST by skeeter
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He was confused before, he’s just as confused now. How is it he’s allowed to be elevated to proliferate his confusion in the media? I know the answer.


6 posted on 02/02/2016 8:15:26 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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While I guess I appreciate the fact that a gay activist is against forcing Christian bakers to bake cakes with gay messages on them, no matter how self-righteous he is in his argument, the irony is that his argument is completely wrong.

Someone who asks for a cake that says “I hate gays” or “I’m against gay marriage”, or who asks a Jewish baker to bake a cake with a swastika on it, or who asks a Muslim baker to bake a cake with a picture of Muhammad on it, is not engaging in a protected status activity. Nazis and people who want a cake with a picture of Muhammad and people who are against gay marriage aren’t protected status under the law. Gays are. And a baker is engaged in commerce, which is not protected speech. So if, in the ordinary course of your business, you bake a cake for a normal wedding and you put slogans on it, then you have to agree to put all slogans on cakes. The alternative is to have a policy of not putting any slogans on cakes.

I’m not saying any of this to make an argument for these Star Chamber witch hunts of Christian bakers. I’d rather see the whole “protected status” BS be shut down all together. But the logic in his article doesn’t hold up.


7 posted on 02/02/2016 8:19:36 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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I’m surprised this article was published in the Guardian. Like everything else in that trash rag, the article is still dreck, but it goes against the fundamential Leftist tenet that Christians who are minding their own business need to be executed.


9 posted on 02/02/2016 8:22:48 AM PST by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Matthew 19:4-6


11 posted on 02/02/2016 8:23:02 AM PST by Josa
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Hmmmmmmmmmm

so there were words on that cake...

it wasn’t the cake it was the words...

that’s not discrimination at all...

unless the homosexuals can prove that the bakers iced a cake with opposite words...


12 posted on 02/02/2016 8:23:26 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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Perhaps he couldn’t fight the influence of the letters, “atch” in his last name.


13 posted on 02/02/2016 8:26:21 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Liberalism = mental disorder)
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Suppose the bakers refused to bake a cake with nazi slogans? would there be a discussion at all?
Obviously this is being used to silence dissent by normal people against PC dogma.


14 posted on 02/02/2016 8:26:55 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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Just curious, are you gay?


15 posted on 02/02/2016 8:27:38 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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Jesus never condemned bestiality, either. Or pedophilia. Or the 1970s Oakland Raiders.

Does that mean Jesus was a fan of the 1970s Oakland Raiders and all Christians should wear black and silver to church?

20 posted on 02/02/2016 8:35:08 AM PST by Scirparius
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Now, two days before the case goes to appeal, I have changed my mind. Much as I wish to defend the gay community, I also want to defend freedom of conscience, expression and religion.


21 posted on 02/02/2016 8:36:58 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Terrorism, the thing that shall not be named by the MSM)
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If anyone ever demands that I make them a gay quilt then I hope they don’t mind if I drape it over their casket.


23 posted on 02/02/2016 8:51:36 AM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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Is a gay cake when two cakes of the same flavor mix together?


25 posted on 02/02/2016 8:57:00 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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I profoundly disagree with Ashers' opposition to same-sex love and marriage, and support protests against them. They claim to be Christians, yet Jesus never once condemned homosexuality, and discrimination is not a Christian value. Ashers' religious justifications are, to my mind, theologically unsound. Nevertheless, on reflection the court was wrong to penalise Ashers and I was wrong to endorse its decision.

I don't think this fellow claims to be a Christian - just a pro-Sodomite. So it is not surprising that he has not read the Bible and just parrots catch phrases he has heard from others. Someone with a nodding acquaintance with the Bible would understand that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Word made flesh, and His Will and works were in complete agreement with God the Father as well as God the Holy Spirit. And as God makes it clear in the Old and New Testaments (Leviticus 18, the Sodom and Gomorrah dust up, 1 Corinthians 6, etc) - Homosexuality is a sin. And, although merciful (as is God the Father and God the Holy Ghost), our Lord Jesus is clear - go and sin no more. We may stumble, but if sin is a lifestyle - it will lead one to hell.

But I give the writer credit for recognizing that he was wrong for originally supporting that the Ashers' should be forced to participate in an event that is an abomination to their beliefs.

28 posted on 02/02/2016 9:03:35 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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"They claim to be Christians, yet Jesus never once condemned homosexuality, and discrimination is not a Christian value."

Jesus did not explicitly condemn homosexuality, rape, or many other specific sins, but he explicitly upheld the Jewish law, which DID condemn homosexuality.

As for "discrimination," it is clear from the New Testament and other early Christian writings that the early church DID have a strict set of moral standards, and that those who repeatedly and defiantly violated those standards would be excluded from the community.
32 posted on 02/02/2016 10:22:37 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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You vill bake ze cake und you vill like it!!!!


34 posted on 02/02/2016 10:26:30 AM PST by Boogieman
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Just wait ‘til the Gaystapo is through with this guy’s “re-education.”


37 posted on 02/02/2016 12:04:11 PM PST by fwdude
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bump


39 posted on 02/02/2016 12:50:26 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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