Trump Questions Ben Carson's Religion: 'I Don't Know About That' (What Trump said last Oct.)

News Max ^ | 24 Oct 2015 | By Todd Beamon

[Sun]

Donald Trump on Saturday raised questions about Republican presidential challenger Ben Carson's faith with recent surveys showing the retired pediatric neurosurgeon leading among voters in Iowa and Wisconsin. (snip) The Washington Post reports. "And, look, I don't have to say it, I'm Presbyterian.

"Can you believe it? Nobody believes I'm Presbyterian," the billionaire developer added. "I'm Presbyterian. I'm Presbyterian.

"I'm Presbyterian. Boy, that's down the middle of the road folks, in all fairness," he said. "I mean, Seventh-day Adventist, I don't know about. I just don't know about."

[Sun]

Donald Trump’s so-called mild remarks are to cast doubts on his opponents, and it works. Everything Trump says, Trump supporters REPEAT, including the lies.

Not you, but some of Trump supporters even have that it’s cool to be cruel mentality. It’s like the Obama cult.

[Sun]

My dial-up is SLOW on videos, which is why I asked for an excerpt and a link. Can’t you find one?

[Sun]

So Donald attacks Ben, and Donald attacks Ted, but when he is questioned on his belief, he puts on the pseudo outrage.

[Sun]

If you like McConnell, you’ll like Trump”

“Trump has long praised Mitch McConnell, the man who is the embodiment of why people are fed up with the party and attracted to Trump in the first place. While conservatives were fighting to get rid of McConnell in the 2014 primaries, Trump said, “It would be a shame if he didn’t win, because he has such power, it’s so good for his state.”

It comes as no surprise, then, that late last year Trump criticized Cruz for acting like a “maniac” when he called McConnell a liar. How does Trump plan to fight political correctness and the culture of the D.C. establishment when he has championed the mastermind of the GOP establishment and is offended by the non-politically correct criticism of its leader?”

more: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/trumps-questionable-political-history

[Karl Spooner]

It would do more good if you found it yourself. It’s not hard, well, maybe for a Cruzer.

[LachlanMinnesota]

Lately, there are many sources who look beyond the words stated for all candidates to complete a non-existent dialogue, and then everyone fights about that instead of what was said.

If they all agree to assume the additional language, of course they will agree that he was questioning the religion.

That is not indicative of the intent of the speaker, though.

[grey_whiskers]

Diplomacy is the art of saying “Nice Doggie!” until you can find a rock...

[Sun]

I also want a wall, and I’m a Christian.

But I still don’t like Trump acting like a martyr when he does pretty much the same thing to his political opponents, when he KNOWS it’s dirty politics.

I believe that both Trump and Cruz (whoever won) will build a wall, if they can get Congress to support them. HOWEVER, Trump said he would build a wall with a WIDE gate. I personally heard Trump say WIDE GATE.

Sounds like he means it with the WIDE GATE, if you read this:

“We are not talking about positions he has taken years ago before he became a Republican. In 2013, conservatives were fighting for dear life to oppose open borders, while Trump was not only supporting the Dream Act, but echoing the liberal politically correct talking points behind it. In August of 2013, he reportedly told a group of illegal aliens, “You have convinced me” of the need to pass the Dream Act.”

more: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/trumps-questionable-political-history

[D-fendr]

>>> Since when is Trump a religious leader like Trump said today?

Trump said “No leader, especially a religious leader..”

[RginTN]

trump got what he dishes out...its so amusing.

trump could also never get Communion in the Catholic church if he converts cause he’s living in sin

[lewislynn]

I truly don’t know about seventh day adeventists either.

I don't either, only what I've read at their website.
Here are a few tidbits. BTW, Heidi Cruz was raised Seventh Day Adventist...I don't know if she still is but she is open borders. That's documented.

The Dangers of Climate Change

Scientists warn that the gradual warming of the atmosphere as a result of human activity will have serious environmental consequences. The climate will change, resulting in more storms, more floods, and more droughts.

To keep climate change within bearable limits, the emissions of greenhouse gasses, especially carbon dioxide (CO2), need to be significantly reduced. Industrialized countries are the main source of these emissions, while the first victims are the small island states and low-lying coastal countries.

Despite the clear risks, governments appear slow to act.

The world membership of the Seventh-day Adventist Church requests that the governments concerned take steps necessary to avert the danger:

1) By fulfilling the agreement reached in Rio de Janeiro (1992 Convention on Climate Change) to stabilize carbon dioxide emissions by the year 2000 at 1990 levels,

2) By establishing plans for further reductions in carbon dioxide emissions after the year 2000, and

3) By initiating more forcefully public debate on the risks of climate change.

In signing this statement, Seventh-day Adventists declare their advocacy of a simple, wholesome lifestyle, where people do not step on the treadmill of unbridled consumerism and production of waste. They call for respect of creation, restraint in the use of the world's resources, and reevaluation of our needs as individuals.

Environment

Seventh-day Adventists believe that humankind was created in the image of God, thus representing God as His stewards, to rule the natural environment in a faithful and fruitful way.

Unfortunately, corruption and exploitation have been brought into the management of the human domain of responsibility. Increasingly men and women have been involved in a megalomaniacal destruction of the earth's resources, resulting in widespread suffering, environmental disarray, and the threat of climate change. While scientific research needs to continue, it is clear from the accumulated evidence that the increasing emission of destructive gasses, the depletion of the protective mantel of ozone, the massive destruction of the American forests, and the so-called greenhouse effect, are all threatening the earth's eco-system.

These problems are largely due to human selfishness and the egocentric pursuit of getting more and more through ever-increasing production, unlimited consumption and depletion of nonrenewable resources. The ecological crisis is rooted in humankind's greed and refusal to practice good and faithful stewardship within the divine boundaries of creation.

Seventh-day Adventists advocate a simple, wholesome lifestyle, where people do not step on the treadmill of unbridled consumerism, goods-getting, and production of waste. We call for respect of creation, restraint in the use of the world's resources, reevaluation of one's needs, and reaffirmation of the dignity of created life.

This statement was approved and voted by the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists Administrative Committee (ADCOM) and was released by the Office of the President, Robert S. Folkenberg, at the General Conference session in Utrecht, the Netherlands, June 29-July 8, 1995.

Ban on Sales of Assault Weapons to Civilians

Automatic or semi-automatic military-style weapons are becoming increasingly available to civilians. In some areas of the world it is relatively easy to acquire such guns. They show up not only in the street, but in the hands of youngsters at school. Many crimes are committed through the use of these kinds of weapons. They are made to kill people. They have no legitimate recreational use.

The teachings and example of Christ constitute the guide for the Christian today. Christ came into the world to save lives, not to destroy them (Luke 9:56). When Peter drew his weapon Jesus said to him: "Put your sword back in its place . . . All who take the sword will die by the sword" (Matt. 26:52 TEV). Jesus did not engage in violence.

The argument is made by some that banning assault weapons limits the rights of people and that guns do not commit crimes, but people do. While it is true that violence and criminal inclinations lead to guns, it is also true that availability of guns leads to violence. The opportunity for civilians to acquire by purchase or otherwise automatic or semi-automatic assault weapons only increases the number of deaths resulting from human crimes. Possession of guns by civilians in the United States has increased by an estimated 300 per cent in the past four years. During the same period there has been a staggering increase in armed attacks and resulting deaths.

In most of the world such weapons cannot be acquired by any legal means. The Church views with alarm the relative ease with which they may be acquired in some areas. Their availability can only open the possibility of further tragedies.

Pursuits of peace and the preservation of life are to be the goals of Christians. Evil cannot be effectively met with evil, but must be overcome with good. Seventh-day Adventists, with other people of good will, wish to cooperate in using every legitimate means of reducing, and eliminating where possible, the root causes of crime. In addition, with public safety and the value of human life in mind, the sale of automatic or semi-automatic assault weapons should be strictly controlled. This would reduce the use of weapons by mentally disturbed people and criminals, especially those involved in drug and gang activities.

[kabar]

Let’s talk after Saturday.

[Sun]

“Let’s talk after Saturday.”

Let’s talk NOW.

For starters, here’s a couple of Trump quotes:

(Michael Bloomberg is) “a friend of mine. He’s been an excellent mayor of New York City. He’s a great guy and he means very well.” Trump said this in 2013.

Trump also said this in 2013:

“I think pretty strongly that (Bill de Blasio will) end up being a good mayor, maybe a very good mayor and I don’t think he’s going to want to kill the golden goose. ...I think he’s a smart guy that knows what’s going on really big league and I think he is not going to want to destroy New York. I think he is going to want to make New York great..”

Is that the kind of “great” Donald Trump has in mind for America? Bill de Blasio’s kind of “great?”

kabar, if you want a candidate who is part conservative, and part liberal, that’s fine. But just know who you are voting for? Don’t we already have enough “moderates” in Washington, D.C.? Just saying.

[kabar]

Trump is going to win easily here in SC and then NV.

kabar, if you want a candidate who is part conservative, and part liberal, that’s fine. But just know who you are voting for? Don’t we already have enough “moderates” in Washington, D.C.? Just saying.

I could care less about labels. If Trump delivers on immigration, trade, and national defense, that is fine with me. He is a nationalist who will put the interests of Americans ahead of everything else. Both parties have abandoned the American worker.

The problem is we have enough "conservatives" who lie to get elected and then betray us. We have a GOP controlled Congress that has given Obama everything he wants. Ryan calls himself a conservative. The label has become meaningless.

[Sun]

What makes you think Trump will keep HIS promises any more than the others?

Plus, it troubles me when people pick out a few conservative issues, and that’s all they want.

Conservatism is a way of life.

Selecting Constitutional judges might be the most important issue, because it affects everything else.

I don’t trust Donald Trump to pick judges when he stated:

“Trump: Eminent Domain, Even For Private Projects Is ‘Wonderful Thing,’ ‘You’re Not Taking Property’”

Visit http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/10/06/trump-eminent-domain-even-for-private-projects-is-wonderful-thing-youre-not-taking-property/

Hasn’t he ever read our Founders’ intent in the Fifth Amendment where it says eminent should be used for PUBLIC USE. It’s not to be used to build a parking lot next to a businessman’s PRIVATE casino.

[RC one]

None of that sounds good to me.

[kabar]

What makes you think Trump will keep HIS promises any more than the others?

I don't, but if you keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result, then you lose. Let's try something different this time.

Conservatism is a way of life.

The rapidly changing demographics of this country make conservatism a fringe philosophy. It is not appealing to the masses that are becoming more dependent upon Big Government. Low taxes, smaller government, and individual responsibility are not resonating. The Dems have won the popular vote in five out of the last six elections.

Hasn’t he ever read our Founders’ intent in the Fifth Amendment where it says eminent should be used for PUBLIC USE. It’s not to be used to build a parking lot next to a businessman’s PRIVATE casino.

The average voter could care less about the issue. We have 47 million people on food stamps and the lowest labor participation rates in 38 years. Wages have been declining for over four decades. We have a huge surplus of labor. Good paying jobs and our manufacturing base are being moved abroad. Immigrants are taking jobs and depressing wages.

Who really gives a sh*t about eminent domain? The country has a $19 trillion national debt plus over $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities in the form of the entitlement programs. Trump is the only one speaking to the real concerns of the voter. And he speaks in the vernacular.

[Sun]

“.... if you keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result, then you lose. ..”

That is EXACTLY what you are doing. You are BLINDLY falling yet again for the hype and promises.

Vote for someone with a PROVEN record:

“Ted Cruz ran on conservative issues like building a fence on our border when he was elected, he has lived up to his promises in the Senate and he has run a consistently conservative campaign.

Cruz is also not temperamental and you don’t ever have to wonder what he REALLY thinks about issues like abortion or health care. Perhaps even more importantly, Cruz has proven that he’s a fighter who’s not scared to go toe-to-toe with anybody from the Republican establishment to Obama, to the mainstream media.

Cruz’s consistent conservatism mixed with his willingness to fight is why he’s the ONLY CANDIDATE RUNNING who can absolutely be counted on to get rid of Obama’s executive orders, kill Obamacare, defund Planned Parenthood and build a fence on the border. “

excerpt http://spectator.org/articles/65335/grow

[Sun]

I like your tagline, so I think I’ll post this again:

“Trump has long praised Mitch McConnell, the man who is the embodiment of why people are fed up with the party and attracted to Trump in the first place. While conservatives were fighting to get rid of McConnell in the 2014 primaries, Trump said, “It would be a shame if he didn’t win, because he has such power, it’s so good for his state.”

It comes as no surprise, then, that late last year Trump criticized Cruz for acting like a “maniac” when he called McConnell a liar. How does Trump plan to fight political correctness and the culture of the D.C. establishment when he has championed the mastermind of the GOP establishment and is offended by the non-politically correct criticism of its leader?”

more: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/trumps-questionable-political-history

[RginTN]

trump’s history is why I’m skeptical of his version of hope and change. Rubio turned me off with his gang of 8 too.
Don’t get the trump believers with his recent lib history.

Cruz isn’t perfect but he’s better than those two!