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1 posted on 02/24/2016 2:40:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Thought this author might actually get it. Naah.


2 posted on 02/24/2016 2:45:19 PM PST by jimfree (In November 2016 my 15 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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The ravings of yet another journalist who will spend his life confused but sneering.


3 posted on 02/24/2016 2:46:41 PM PST by linear (Fealty to no man or party.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Makes a lot of valid observations, although, since he’s a liberal, he has to holler “Racism!” at random intervals.

But when it comes to why the OTHER candidates have crashed and burned, this guy gets it.


5 posted on 02/24/2016 2:48:06 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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Trump is a flawed, imperfect vessel for the American people’s desire to shake things up and restore their country.

Its a cause, a movement that will live on whether or not he is ever elected President.

Americans are not interested in decline.


6 posted on 02/24/2016 2:49:18 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Cliff Notes version of article for those disinclined to read the whole thing: “Americans are p!ssed off.”


7 posted on 02/24/2016 2:55:34 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Look, I get it.

I understand why folks want Trump.

I just wish my fellow FReepers/conservatives would admit that why they want him “trumps” their normally conservative ideals. It becomes crazy-land when heretofore conservative folks (even purists) throw that overboard because they finally have someone who can take on the establishment/fight for their cause/say what’s on their mind/shake things up.

If the conversations were more like, “Yeah, I know. He’s a little scary to me, too. I know. He’s only SAID what he’s going to do so far. He hasn’t actually done it.” “Yeah, I know. That’s not the way I would have said that.” “Yeah, you’re right. It’s hard to know what he’s going to actually do based on his background.”

“BUT...at least he’s damned well taking it back to them! At least he’s SAYING the right things! At least there’s someone in the race for President that is finally got the GOPe shook!”

I could have conversations with folks like that. But when any criticism, any complaint, anything that might be construed as less than full-throated support invites attacks, flames, mischaracterizations, etc., it’s just a little worrisome.

I wonder what conservatism in some people is actually based on. The gang mentality is stupefying.

I’m not against Trump, exactly. But I’ve got lots of questions about him.

I just pity the folks who can’t have conversations about him; honest conversations...without devolving into condescending, twisted, name-calling spats.


9 posted on 02/24/2016 3:01:50 PM PST by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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What about the fact he supports bail out? No one has addressed this yet.


10 posted on 02/24/2016 3:06:33 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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ohhh I had hope .... but Nope, they still don't get it:

Doing so fails them all the time. Look at the Tea Party, which the Beltway (at various points) tried desperately to explain as populist resentment of Business As Usual, or a new libertarian moment. Only recently has the media madding crowd come around to some kind of consensus about it just being racist as hell.

11 posted on 02/24/2016 3:21:52 PM PST by Lorianne
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It’s one thing to be angry.

It’s another thing entirely to compromise your ethics, values, and integrity in expressing that anger by backing a classless clown who expresses that rage.

In 2008, an unqualified candidate won because the electorate voted emotionally.

Are we really going to be so gullible as to do it again?

Solomon was right: “What has been will be again; there is nothing new under the sun.”


12 posted on 02/24/2016 3:26:29 PM PST by Jedidah
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the poorly educated ... blah blah blah
has
NOTHING
to do with
common sense
and
INTELLIGENCE

what they really mean is
THOSE NOT SWAYED BY MSM PROPAGANDA
THIOSE WHO THINK FOR THEMSELVES
THOSE WHO BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD REPRESENT THE PEOPLE AND NOT
LARGE DONORS
SUPER PACS
CORPORATE INTERESTS

THISE WHO WANT A STREET FIGHTER NOT LORD FAUNTLEROY
NOT A COMMIE OR A LIAR AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF

Trump resonates due to the republicans selling out.......every chance they get


13 posted on 02/24/2016 3:29:44 PM PST by zzwhale
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so this guy thinks nativism is ugly. What is wrong wrong with being a nativist? The fact that the world is divided up into different cultures, with different languages, mores, folkways, customs and attitudes, and that people prefer to be with those who share a similar culture, means that we are all nativists. But now it’s a pejorative.


14 posted on 02/24/2016 3:31:37 PM PST by brianr10
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The negative buzz word 10 days ago by the controlled Establishment media was “unhinged”.... Guess that did not work?

Just like how Jeb Bush did not work, and the Establishment had to roll out plan B.... Rubio.

“Angry” is the new negative Establishment Media buzz word against Trump tto indicate his supporters are not reasonable.

If anyone is “angry” or “unhinged” and unreasonable then it’s the Establishment. They can’t win the debate. So now they attack the messenger.


15 posted on 02/24/2016 3:38:16 PM PST by Enlightened1
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When did these so-called professional journalist figure out most in the country has nothing left but contempt for this loser leadership? This has been brewing for decades? Decades of decline.

Is everyone in the MSM, academia, and D.C. really this completely detached from the real world?


16 posted on 02/24/2016 3:45:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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One more thing. Americans are very concerned about the direction of our Republic. Much like a parent to a child that’s heading in the wrong direction. It’s called beIng concerned about something you love. We are the ones that have been patient and rational.

Like I said the only angry, unhinged losers arre the Demons of this world that attack the messenger instead of influencing and winning people over with facts and logic in a debate.


17 posted on 02/24/2016 3:45:53 PM PST by Enlightened1
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There are millions of miserable people in America who know exactly who engineered the shattering of their worlds, and Trump isn't one of those people – and, with the exception of Bernie Sanders, everyone else in the field is running on the basis of their experience being one of those people.

There is more than a sough of condescension in this article and I doubt seriously if the author's list of those who engineered the "shattering of their worlds" and mine would match, but I do believe he nailed this one. And he did spot the one very disquieting thing about Nevada: clear evidence of a spectrum of support much, much broader than a crank pandering to a splinter group.

One expects the condescension from the Guardian, whose own staff typifies the author's characterization:

Anger isn't something that Beltway pundits recognize, let alone understand because everyone employed in media or in politics in and around Washington DC is pretty well off.

Just so, but it isn't only DC, and the relative affluence of the Guardian pundits is considerably above their readers, and they tend to miss a similar bubbling anger within the UK regarding attitudes toward uncontrolled immigration that are far more popular inside the editorial board than inside the local working man's pub.

If you can hardly imagine that you could follow the Horatio Alger script to the letter and still find yourself sinking in quicksand, you're never going to understand why someone would be so contemptuous of the pieties of a system that only pays attention to you when doing soft-focus interviews in search of a journalism award or a campaign ad.

And so yes, anger against the establishment political machines, against the media (if that isn't redundant), against the pieties and pretenses and lofty disdain of a would-be ruling class. This isn't actually all that difficult to diagnose. And the notion that only the guilty will be punished is more than a little naive.

19 posted on 02/24/2016 3:47:37 PM PST by Billthedrill
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There's a repetition and even re-invention of some of the "Tea Partiers and conservatives are all racists" memes here that are pure bullcrap.

But I have to admire the writing:

"As tacky and thuggish as it might be, Trump plays the hero to people that the wise warriors of the system have abandoned. He's the ultimate Gary Stu character: a billionaire beholden to no one and able to abuse every disingenuous and pettifogging remora latched headfirst on the nation and sucking upward."

An absolutely great line.

22 posted on 02/24/2016 4:41:08 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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Saw a story on the news last night where a school board voted to provide condoms to middle school children.

The parents were at the meeting, but they were ignored, the professionals know what is best and over the parents objections plan on going forward with it.

This is going on all over America. No, not a school board providing condoms to children over the parents objection, but the fact public servants doing what they think best, even when the people object.

Our governments at all levels are out of control.

More laws, more regulations, more taxes, it is never enough.

I have to wonder over the intelligence of all those that keep making anti-trump postings (keep it up it does not bother me), but wonder how they miss the real message behind Trump.

It is not Trump the man people are supporting, it is the message he is sending. So while the man may be flawed, the message is not.

Trump is the earthquakes that precedes a volcanic eruption, the eruption will come if the message is not heard by those in power today.

The American people want our borders secure.
The American people want illegals deported.
The American people want restrictions on out of control regulatory bodies.

Everyone has their own list, but it boils down to less government in our life.

And please, can we either win the war, or just bring our troops home.

How many of our brave young people sacrifice so politicians can feel macho?


26 posted on 02/25/2016 4:17:38 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I think it would be ironic if Hillary was arrested the day after she secures the nomination.)
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“his signature promises and certainly not the consequences if he keeps them”

We prefer your dreaded CONSEQUENCES to the status quo moron!


32 posted on 02/25/2016 1:16:50 PM PST by The Toll
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