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Half a Century Later, the Ghost of Goldwater Haunts the Establishment
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 03/03/2016 5:14:31 PM PST by Kaslin

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RUSH: I want to play for you a sound bite from Tom Brokaw, formerly of the NBC Nightly News. He was on the NBC Nightly News last night in a special segment, as a special correspondent, and I want you to listen to what he says. I guess it was a commentary. Remember, Romney went out today and warned everybody. Barry Goldwater. Remember: The Republican establishment, when they think "conservative," they think landslide humiliating defeat 1964, Barry Goldwater.

They do not think what that wrought. They do not think Ronald Reagan, A Time for Choosing, the beginning of the Reaganism movement which led to Reagan winning two landslides in 1980, and the Republicans being viable in California and having massive success with policy implementation -- economic and foreign policy. The Soviet Union imploded, the Berlin Wall came down, just magical stuff. And they do not go there. They go back to Goldwater. And so they're trying to square Trump supporters into abandoning him 'cause we're just headed to a landslide defeat in 1964, and so is Tom Brokaw. Listen...

BROKAW: We've been here before. In 1964, the Republican establishment tried to keep Barry Goldwater from the Republican presidential nomination. They failed, and then he lost massively to LBJ in the '64 election. Four years later, Richard Nixon made his famous comeback. So you never know with politics.

RUSH: Right. Hey, just don't throw that off there, "Four years later Richard Nixon made his massive comeback." The reason is that 1964 started something. They look at that as a landslide defeat, but 1964 started something, and that something is still alive and thriving and well. And I'm a proud member of it, as are you. Yes, 1964 was when conservatism officially planted itself in the Republican Party, and it grew and grew and grew.

And it is defeated when the Democrats and Republicans together unite against conservative candidates. Now, this is not to say that Trump is a Goldwater conservative or a Reagan conservative, but he represents the same thing Goldwater did: fringe outsider, not one of us, can't let this guy win. They were happy Goldwater lost in a landslide. That's the dichotomy here. They think back to it and they shudder. "Oh my God! We don't want to go through that again." But they loved it.

They loved conservatism getting creamed back in '64. But all it was was the first step in a massive growth of a movement rooted in the founding of the United States of America, planting a flag and taking a foothold in the Republican Party. You go out and you can find Democrats -- they're out there talking today -- who were campaigning for Jimmy Carter in 1980. You can find Democrat consults, and they are very honest today. They will tell you that the happiest day of their life was when the Republicans nominated Reagan.

Brokaw Lectures Trump Opponents: Stopping Nomination Would ‘Be an Attack’ on Democracy

They thought, "Nobody's gonna elect this guy, a doddering old fool actor -- a B actor at that. He acted with chimpanzees! This is who the Republicans have nominated?" And they didn't take him seriously. They thought it was the easiest campaign of their lives. Jimmy Carter was running for reelection, and before the polls had even closed in California on election night 1980, Reagan had won and was declared a landslide winner.

And those Democrats -- who will openly admit what they thought of Reagan back then -- are talking today, because they're putting it in context of the now, and they are drawing parallels. They're saying, "You know, I remember what I thought about Reagan. I remember I thought Reagan was a doddering old idiot, slobbering old fool, a gummer, a B actor with chimpanzees. No chance. And I'm thinking of Trump the same way." They'll tell you this. I saw one of them was quoted on Fox this morning, and he said, "I'm thinking of Trump the same way."

But they're having second thoughts now.

They're not confident, in other words, of their view that Trump is some aberration, oddball weirdo that's gonna get skunked in the general. They're worried it's going to be just the exact opposite. You get them to be honest with you when there aren't any other Democrats around to spank them and they'll tell you they're worried sick that Hillary can't beat this back. It's what they really think. And Tom Brokaw says, "Well, we've been here before: In 1964, the Republican establishment tried to stop Goldwater." Their frame of reference is amazing.

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Ronald Reagan's 1980 landslide win

1984 was even better


1 posted on 03/03/2016 5:14:31 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The Establishment is GOLDWATER!!! Trump is TRUMP!!


2 posted on 03/03/2016 5:16:41 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: Kaslin

Lincoln come back from the grave could not have defeated LBJ 11 months after the Kennedy assassination.


3 posted on 03/03/2016 5:17:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: Kaslin
Rush is done. He should retire. Loser Establishment.
4 posted on 03/03/2016 5:20:02 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rush is starting to SUCK real bad!! Wh did he admittedly meet with Chuck Schumer in secret on amnesty. I don’t Trust Rush any more than I could throw his fat ass over Trumps WALL!!


5 posted on 03/03/2016 5:20:29 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: Kaslin

Which is an example of the idocy of the Establishment. After the blessed St John of Mass was assassinated, no Republican was going to in in 1964


6 posted on 03/03/2016 5:25:45 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lincoln didn’t get any states in the South but still won...


7 posted on 03/03/2016 5:27:55 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: WENDLE

The Goldwater defeat does not haunt the RINOs; his defeat is exploited by the RINOs.


8 posted on 03/03/2016 5:29:01 PM PST by odawg
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To: TornadoAlley3

Did you even read the article? My guess is no and I know I am 100 percent correct.


9 posted on 03/03/2016 5:30:00 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed theThe l ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: WENDLE

You didn’t even read the article


10 posted on 03/03/2016 5:31:45 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed theThe l ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin
I do not read or listen to anything from Rush anymore. He is Establishment. Done with him forever.
11 posted on 03/03/2016 5:33:37 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

GOLDWATER:
In YOUR HEART YOU KNOW HE’S RIGHT!

Dem response:
In your guts you know he’s nuts!

Johnson: “I will not send American boys ten thousand miles to fight in a war Southeast Asian boys should be fighting!”

Goldwater (to Johnson): “You KNOW we are going to have to send troops to SE Asia!”

Johnson’S reply: “I know Barry, but I am trying to win an election!”

Bumper sticker at that time... A black pregnant woman saying...”I WENT ALL THE WAY WIFF LBJ!”

Years later the same bumper sticker with...NIXON’S THE ONE!


12 posted on 03/03/2016 5:41:40 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Kaslin

Ted Cruz is Goldwater, a stiff, ideologically rigid conservative who can’t relate to the voters or inspire them so that he can win them over to his thinking. Trump’s appeal is Reaganesque, even if his ideology is not. Trump is conservative enough on the things that are important to this country at this moment in history. Stop the illegals, get rid of Obamacare, get better trade deals, lower taxes and DESTROY the RNC from the ground up. Then we can talk about a perfect candidate down the road. Maybe Cruz, if he hasn’t ruined himself by his tactics in this case.


13 posted on 03/03/2016 5:42:32 PM PST by Defiant (After 8 years of Chump Change, it's time for Trump Change!!)
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To: Kaslin

And I’m glad as hell you put one of the maps up in blue, instead of the commie red they all colluded us into.


14 posted on 03/03/2016 6:18:05 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Found several unused Gaoldwater bumper stickers when cleaning out my parent's attic. Good memories.


15 posted on 03/03/2016 6:26:33 PM PST by Daffynition (*Security, confiscate their coats. Get them out of here. It's 10 below zero out there ~DJT)
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To: Kaslin

Romney’s old man killed Goldwater.
Read all about Mexican Mormon Missionaries George Romney.


16 posted on 03/03/2016 6:33:20 PM PST by mabelkitty (Trump 2016!)
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To: Kaslin

It should really be Hoover and his policys.

I remember those post Johnson / Goldwater election Daze when things began to sour up and bumper stickers started appearing all over the place with the slogan
Don’t Blame Me I voted Goldwater

I joked at one of our Republican party meetings because after seeing so many; How did Goldwater lose ?
Point is Goldwater and the conservative movement was begining and respected thanks to Reagan.


17 posted on 03/03/2016 6:49:27 PM PST by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's becaus e of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: MNJohnnie

As I recall my history President Kennedy wasn’t particularly admired or thought well of in 1963. He was no hero to the liberals, and I don’t think he had much support amongst conservatives. Yet everyone says the Democrats were certain to win. I know President Kennedy being assassinated contorted/distorted some people, but why the big change.

I gathered that most people shrugged their shoulders at the Kennedy administration, but then he is the greatest thing ever? Doesn’t fit?


18 posted on 03/03/2016 7:43:45 PM PST by AceMineral (One day men will beg for chains.)
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To: AceMineral

Because after a shcoking death like that the nation tends to pull togther and remember they are one people. there is an old saying “do not speak ill of the dead” so people forget the bad and remmber the good. The optics of his young children ad the funeral were heartbreaking. There memory of Kenndy became seen thur rose colored glasses by 1964


19 posted on 03/03/2016 7:46:10 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: mabelkitty

Back in 1968, one or two of the socalled ENQUIRER psychic “prophets” said George Romney would be elected then.


20 posted on 03/03/2016 8:05:16 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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