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Army set to expand program it claims it killed
MSN News ^ | 9 Mar 2016 | Tom Vanden Brook

Posted on 03/09/2016 1:33:46 PM PST by detective

The Army misled Congress and taxpayers when it said it had killed in 2014 a program that embedded social scientists with combat units, according to a congressman, a Defense official and Army documents.

Last year, the Army said it had terminated the controversial battlefield anthropology program, known as the Human Terrain System, which had been plagued by documented time sheet fraud, racism and sexual harassment. It is not clear why the Army said the program was dead, according to a Defense Department official who spoke on condition of anonymity because officials were not authorized to speak publicly about the program.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: dod; military; obama
Obama administration officials lied to Congress. The government is out of control.
1 posted on 03/09/2016 1:33:46 PM PST by detective
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To: detective

Obama sees the military as his personal social experimentation playground.


2 posted on 03/09/2016 1:37:26 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Liberals are the Taliban of America, trying to tear down any symbol that they don't like.)
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To: detective

Wonder if they give them the correct title,

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Zampolit


3 posted on 03/09/2016 1:38:43 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: detective

Whew, I thought we were talking about Outcome and LARX...


4 posted on 03/09/2016 1:39:56 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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No wonder that suicide rates are so high with these scientific frauds neck deep in it.


5 posted on 03/09/2016 1:43:35 PM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand. If you are French raise both hands)
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To: detective

My recollection of the Human Terrain System was that it was focused on non-Americans in our areas of operation - who is is who, how they relate and what motivates them.

It was part and parcel of Petraeus championing a counter-insurgency approach. With the Americans turning over every few months or every year, they needed good info on the people they would work with, and among.


6 posted on 03/09/2016 1:47:41 PM PST by BeauBo
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Sending political officers out with the troops was a hallmark of the Stalin regime - no wonder obama’s embraced it.


7 posted on 03/09/2016 1:48:03 PM PST by Jack Hammer (uff said.)
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To: detective

The only time ever that a Sociology major made $280,000 a year.

And only showed up to hit on the cute troops.


8 posted on 03/09/2016 1:48:52 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: detective
...embedded social scientists with combat units...

In the Red Army they are called "Political Officers."

9 posted on 03/09/2016 1:49:25 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: detective

why is obama?


10 posted on 03/09/2016 1:51:16 PM PST by Thibodeaux (leading from behind is following)
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Social Scientists?

Oh yes.

Back in the old days the Russians had those. They called the political officers. They kept the morale up at Stalingrad.


11 posted on 03/09/2016 2:03:40 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: detective

“Social Scientists” = PC Narcs


12 posted on 03/09/2016 2:08:59 PM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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We’ll end up with a commissar assigned to each battalion.


13 posted on 03/09/2016 2:10:10 PM PST by 04-Bravo
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14 posted on 03/09/2016 2:17:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: Vermont Lt

“They kept the morale up at Stalingrad.”

Or else.


15 posted on 03/09/2016 2:23:53 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: detective

I guess these ‘scientists’ may get the chance to study first hand the nuanced meanings of the term ‘fragged’.


16 posted on 03/09/2016 2:43:34 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: Yo-Yo
"Have you seen any crypto-fascist, reactionary capitalists I can purge?" Enemy at the Gate commissars photo: Enemy at the Gate EnemyattheGateDanilov2.jpg
17 posted on 03/09/2016 3:19:37 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: detective

Most of the comments reflect the overall ignorance of this program and what these people did. At first, they were contractors and, then later, they were civilian employees. They were never part of the chain of command, their purposes were to advise commanders about the culture, behaviors, and possible reactions of the local populace to military activities. This information can be invaluable in the environment that we faced in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Of course, academics and the military can be polar opposites, especially of those from the humanities disciplines. That was Problem #1, but not the biggest problem.

The biggest problem was the guy that the Army put in charge. He was brilliant and a high energy guy who made things happen. He was given the carte blanche. Unfortunately, he also discovered the the female PhD lead scientist turned out to be a helluva fart sack warmer and she went way beyond the specified tasks laid out in the contract. She also apparently liked her compensation arrangement with bonuses when she maximized profits, so she started submitting falsified invoices. With problem #1 coming to the attention of the senior leaders, they discovered Problem #2 and both of these love birds were sent packing.

Like many things in life graft, corruption, and sex is much more important than political ideology, the fact that this sort of things happen more often in a Democrat administration is not an accident, however.


18 posted on 03/09/2016 3:24:59 PM PST by centurion316
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To: detective

Source of the COIN failure in Afghanistan.


19 posted on 03/09/2016 3:46:08 PM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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We had one of these Human Terrain Teams with us in Iraq in 2008-09. It was staffed by several liberal PhD types who had a “rainbow stew” vision of a post-US occupied Iraq. I told one of the what I thought would happen and she disagreed (with her blinders on). Turns out I was right. And I’ve only got an associates degree. But then again, I live in the real world.

Sad part is, she didn’t even wake up the slightest when her friend was killed by an IED. Liberals in denial cost lives.


20 posted on 03/10/2016 6:06:01 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Islam is a cult of hatred and sexual deviants.)
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