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Suddenly It’s 1964: How the Stop-Trump Drive Resembles the Past
Breitbart ^ | 03/13/16 | Roger Stone

Posted on 03/13/2016 4:30:05 PM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: Enlightened1

The only reason Trump is still in the race is because there hasn’t been a Stop-Trump drive.


21 posted on 03/13/2016 5:33:36 PM PDT by Theophilus (Always vote. Always vote your conscience. God wins every election.)
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To: Snickering Hound

There were only 13 primaries in 1968. Nixon won delegates in the state conventions.


22 posted on 03/13/2016 5:36:07 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: PrairieLady2

In 1960 my mother and everyone else in my small home town of 300 people were convinced Kennedy was going to make everyone go to the Catholic Church. Even the preachers.


23 posted on 03/13/2016 5:45:25 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Cruz voters: Wake up! Trump is our only chance of stopping the gopE. If not now, never!)
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To: VerySadAmerican

In 1964 the theme was “If you vote for Goldwater we’ll end-up in a land war in Asia”.

Some subsequently reported “I voted for Goldwater, and sure enough, we ended up in a land war in Asia”.


24 posted on 03/13/2016 5:49:13 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Enlightened1

As one active in YFG and YAF there are many more contrasts than similarities between AUH20 and Trump. Goldwater people were much more issue oriented and much less into cult of personality. To the extent there was cult of personality, Wn F Buckley had it way over Goldwater. The Goldwater campaign was filled with vigorous debates between the Friedman people and the Austrians. But there was no ad hominem. It was all ideology.


25 posted on 03/13/2016 5:53:53 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Snickering Hound

I stand by what I said.


26 posted on 03/13/2016 5:55:38 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: GilGil

And Goldwater was running against the ghost of JFK as well as LBJ.
And he was stabbed in the back by Romney et al....


27 posted on 03/13/2016 6:09:41 PM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: spintreebob

I knowledgeably disagree
Amacho air force pilot that flew his own plane and
refused to be politically correct.

Ask Phylis Schafley.


28 posted on 03/13/2016 6:14:51 PM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: lodi90

Was there any plausible conservative opposition to Goldwater? That’s why Cruz is key for the GOPe. He’s simply become a tool to divide the conservative anti-establishment. He’s zealously protected by the Media and GOPe now.
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You can see this clearly now. Cruz has become protected. I watched Chris Wallace today and he was in full attack mode while interviewing Trump and Cruz/Rubio were portrayed as the ones correctly attacking Trump for being all wrong. It is simply amazing to behold.

The media whether conservative or liberal cannot help itself from attacking the front runner. Even Limbaugh has lost his mind.


29 posted on 03/13/2016 6:15:34 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: Interesting Times

“Looks more like 1968 to me.”

Yup. Riots in Chicago after summers of race riots. A corrupt, old dem who is the expected winner (LBJ, HRC). An insurgent leftist who beats the corrupt old dem in New Hampshire (Eugene McCarthy, Sanders). A working class style VP who might come to the rescue (Humphrey/Biden) if the old corrupt front runner backs out.

The R side isn’t so clear. There is no equivalent of Cruz because there were no constitutional conservatives running in 1968. Nixon was a big government Republican. However, Nixon was hated by the Rockefeller Republicans as much as Cruz is today, although for different reasons.

Trump is a combination of the Nixon ‘silent majority’ and the George Wallace third party run. People who don’t remember 1968 forget that Wallace won about 50 electoral votes that year. Those are the same deep south states that Trump just swept in primaries. Wallace also ran very strong among blue collar workers and unaffiliateds—in the North and South. Very similar coalition to what Trump has cobbled together.

The liberal media was as aghast at Wallace as they are at Trump. Read this from New Republic and replace “Wallace” with “Trump” in your mind: “Richard Strout, the influential columnist for the New Republic, sat in an upper balcony. For more than forty years, he had reported on the American political scene, under the by-line “T.R.B. from Washington,” but nothing had prepared him for the spectacle he encountered at the Garden that night. “There is menace in the blood shout of the crowds,” he wrote his readers. “You feel you have known this somewhere; never again will you read about Berlin in the 30’s without remembering this wild confrontation here of two irrational forces.” The American “sickness” had been localized in the person of George Wallace, the “ablest demagogue of our time, with a voice of venom and a gut knowledge of the prejudices of the low-income class.” He would not win, said Strout, and his strength was declining, “but sympathy for him is another matter.”

The same funny fault lines keep jumping up in American politics.


30 posted on 03/13/2016 7:00:43 PM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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To: Snickering Hound

“1968 would be when Ronald Reagan beat Nixon in the primaries in the popular vote but the establishment gave the nomination to Nixon.”

I think you are referring to 1976. Reagan vs Ford.


31 posted on 03/13/2016 7:01:39 PM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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To: DuncanWaring

The Left has been up to their tricks for a long time. President Reagan had just received his award for the Distinguished Service Award from the National Association of Broadcasters and he was attacked. It illustrates that you can be as good as a choir boy and the Left will attack you to further their agenda. You can watch the You Tube video of the incident:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbDELK0s_8U&feature=youtu.be


32 posted on 03/13/2016 7:21:25 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: Interesting Times

Looks more like ‘34 to me.


33 posted on 03/13/2016 7:32:27 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: aumrl; sockmonkey

re: Ask Phylis Schafley...aumrl

Schafly is a great example of someone who lived in Alton IL almost all her life and was totally ignorant of the IL GOP.
In IL I was closely aligned with those who fought the IL GOP establishment (eg Kjellander, Rove’s college roommate who was RNC Treasurer). They tried to work with Schafly and were totally frustrated with her ignorance.


34 posted on 03/14/2016 4:21:30 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob

In my book Schafly was greatly responsible for Goldwater getting the votes at convention.
All delegates were given a copy of her book, ‘A Choice Not An ECho’
Book author, movement leader, consistent conservative: not bad for someone you call ‘ignorant’.
What are your accomplishments?


35 posted on 03/14/2016 5:54:21 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: spintreebob

I am also remembering that Mrs. Schafly was a central figure in defeating the so called ‘equal rights amendment’.
And she led the Eagle Forum organization for many years.


36 posted on 03/14/2016 7:55:31 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Snickering Hound

No, did Reagan win any 1968 primary, not to my knowledge? I think he did pretty well in NE, but he was not an “official” candidate until the Monday of the convention in Miami Beach.


37 posted on 03/14/2016 9:49:35 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: aumrl

George W. Romney in 1964 said he “accepted” but did “not endorse” the Goldwater ticket, which was crushed in MI, as Romney won a second term as governor. People in MI used to like a Romney.


38 posted on 03/14/2016 9:51:41 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: magua

You forgot Henry Cabot Lodge. Jr., peeking out from behind the curtain. MA people once idolized the Lodges, but that ended as early as 1952!


39 posted on 03/14/2016 9:53:32 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Theodore R.

And here lies good ole Boston,
Home of the bean and the cod.

Where the Cabots only speak to the Lodges,
and the Lodges only speak to God.


40 posted on 03/14/2016 9:59:40 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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