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How Israel Wants To Soup Up Its Fleet Of F-35s
Foxtrot Alpha ^ | April 07, 2016 | Tyler Rogoway

Posted on 04/08/2016 7:54:27 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 04/08/2016 7:54:27 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So...is the F-35 a good plane, or is it a dud?


2 posted on 04/08/2016 7:57:43 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

I have spoken with many pilots who have been involved in the bed down of initial wings and like all pilots, the like a fun toy and new stuff.


3 posted on 04/08/2016 8:05:40 AM PDT by KC Burke (Consider all of my posts as first drafts. (Apologies to L. Niven))
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To: BenLurkin

They want to modify it even before they get it, that should answer your question. It is a way overpriced turkey.


4 posted on 04/08/2016 8:06:32 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: BenLurkin

dud


5 posted on 04/08/2016 8:07:46 AM PDT by batterycommander
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

And it is a violation of the LOA to modify the software. Didn’t stop the Israli’s with previous buys.


6 posted on 04/08/2016 8:11:02 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

“Conformal tanks” is Hebrew for “We are going to bomb Iran”


7 posted on 04/08/2016 8:15:29 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

That was my immediate thought as well.


8 posted on 04/08/2016 8:19:57 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Hulka

Israel doesn’t worry about the rules when they click on the EULA.

They worry about Israel...which is as it should be.


9 posted on 04/08/2016 8:22:29 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: BenLurkin

My take is there are too many compromises between the Air Force version, Navy version, and the VTOL version.

It’s like taking a Corvette and giving it a Pickup Truck option. It will never do either right.


10 posted on 04/08/2016 8:29:21 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Hulka

It hasn’t stopped Israel previously, and in the past Israel has shared performance data with the United States, including modifications.


11 posted on 04/08/2016 8:33:04 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: BenLurkin
It's yet to be determined.

I think it's likely a great plane, even a phenomenal airplane that will be around for a long time.

It's not the "big motor in a little body" hot rod pony car that the F-16 is, at least, not as far as we know.

It's more like a mid-size hot rod. Think big block GTO, Regal/Cutlass or Charger instead of a Camaro or Mustang.

It's a stealthy air frame tightly wrapped around a very BIG and powerful motor, but also with lots of interior room for the biggest, baddest computer brain and sensors available now and well into the future, plus the interior room for lots of special delivery gifts for the enemy,too!

The F-16 is a P-51 meets F-86 fully evolved in the 20th century.

The F-35 seems more like the 21st century love child of the P-47 and the F-105, with a little Harrier DNA thrown in just to make it interesting.

Personally, I think the F-35 will make its pilots, its maintainers and mission planners everywhere very happy.

12 posted on 04/08/2016 8:34:03 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, life is but a dream.)
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The USA would not give the Israelis the choice of buying the F22. And Israel was not allowed to build the Lavi, which the Chinese stole the plans for and produced calling it something else.

So the F35 is a lemon that can’t stay with the Russian and maybe not even the French planes.


13 posted on 04/08/2016 9:04:22 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (Y)
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To: Hulka

Of course they will modify. They have their own IFF system and they will install this before they fly.

As to the F 35 viability, If they wanted the Boeing plane, they could have selected it.


14 posted on 04/08/2016 9:14:14 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer (ret) and ex-teacher (ret) now part time Professor (what do you know?))
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To: Fred Hayek

Not exactly.
Their mods required cracking source code and that cracking had nothing to do with assisting the US. Their enhancements were done to by-pass FMS security deletions.


15 posted on 04/08/2016 9:16:21 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: KC_for_Freedom

That modification is approved in the LOA and does not involve cracking the source code.


16 posted on 04/08/2016 9:17:59 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: MeganC

An END policy is necessary. They did not petition for that.
The LOA is a contract.
Source code is under no conditions to be modified or changed in any way without permission.
If they want a change to code it can happen, but we own that code, the manufacture owns that code, they are stealing when they change the code.
That is wrong.


17 posted on 04/08/2016 9:23:55 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: USNBandit

That was my first thought.


18 posted on 04/08/2016 9:49:25 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Hulka

The manufacturer may own the code but where’s the legal basis for saying that Israel can’t use their own code?


19 posted on 04/08/2016 10:23:42 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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20 posted on 04/08/2016 10:42:45 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ted is the invisible man. When you consider his qualifications, he fades away. Look through Ted.)
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