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Hillary Pledges Open Borders, Levin Responds with Attack on Trump’s Tariffs
Breitbart.com ^ | 14 May 2016 | Julia Hahn

Posted on 05/14/2016 6:07:44 PM PDT by Rockitz

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To: RedWulf
Protectionism worked pretty well for the first 120 years of the republic.

Yeah, right. Look at the spike in annual GDP growth right after WWII when we fully embraced free(r) trade.

 photo GDP Growth - history_zps4zlwb0ck.png

Looks like history tells a different story from what the protectionists want us to believe.

It’s worked wonderfully for Japan, China, Germany, and Korea.

On what do you base this opinion, feelings? You need to get out more. Have you ever been to any of these countries? China has 400 million people living on the edge of starvation. I've lived in Japan and I can assure you that I wouldn't trade our economy, and lifestyle, for theirs in any way. Korea? You have to be kidding. Ask a German which system is better, and if they are honest, you will find that our way is far superior. I've found that people who have little real experience with the world are always the first to sing the praises of the way others do things.

If you’re going to blindly follow the will of the free market...

Blindly following the will? Have you ever taken (and passed) a course in economics? If you don't trust markets, then you are a proponent of the command economy. Are you also a fan of five-year planning? If you trash markets, which are based on free people freely making decisions that benefit themselves, then you have no right to be calling yourself a conservative. You are at the opposite end of the freedom spectrum.

you may want to consider that there are markets for murder for hire, markets for abortions, and markets for prostitution.

Good thing we have a Constitution and the rule of law in this country. Are you one of the illiterates who thinks Mogadishu represents a truly free market? You should think more before posting such nonsense.

we should probably keep the government out of those markets, right?

The stupid, it burns.

121 posted on 05/16/2016 6:29:15 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
After WWII the USA was the only manufacturing power left. We had trade SURPLUSES all the way until 1980. Trade was around 10-13% of the economy until massive Free Trade debacle of the 1990's.


122 posted on 05/16/2016 6:40:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Nateman
So the current tariff on athletic footware is bad ?

The White House is in agreement with you.

Much to the detriment of the New Balance employees in Massachusetts and Maine.

123 posted on 05/16/2016 7:14:12 AM PDT by onona (Honey this isn't Kindergarten. We are in an all out war for the survival of our Country !)
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To: Rockitz

Listen to Laura Ingraham’s radio show. Its more interesting, has more guests, and is not biased like the Levin and Rush programs have become.


124 posted on 05/16/2016 7:29:03 AM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: Mase
Yes, WW2 the war we won by have 10 times the industry of anyone else built up in 120 years of protectionism. All gone in just 40 years of full free trade. We'd lose ww2 today because China has all our industrial capacity to mass produce war material.

And sure, so called free trade was pretty good for us for a while. From WW2 to the 70s our government used protectionism to make sure the US didn't run a trade imbalance. Since our trade imbalance went negative our industry has fled and we've headed down the road to 3ed world crap hole, just like the UK before us.

I've read plenty of economic text books and most are 90% lies. Economics is full of nice sounding ideas and very few facts. Studying the actual process of how nations rise and fall serves me much better than reading lies and false predictions written by academicians who've never had to apply their work to the real world.

If you want to learn the truth go read the amazing rise of so many nations in recent years and their heavily protectionist policies.

125 posted on 05/16/2016 7:59:54 AM PDT by RedWulf (End Free trade.)
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To: Rockitz

so what’s going to become of Beck and Levin as the November draws nearer.

The passion from their anti-Trump listeners will greatly wane, and many will even start to hear about how good it would be to see Clinton defeated.


126 posted on 05/16/2016 8:04:29 AM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat.)
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To: Robert DeLong

“I personally have quit listening to him, for months now.”

Here’s a wild-eyed conspiracy theory: what if conservative radio is just a safety valve for conservative outrage, to keep us from getting mad enough to actually do something?


127 posted on 05/16/2016 8:13:36 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Mase

I’m surprised nobody has discussed the effect of labor unions.


128 posted on 05/16/2016 8:20:44 AM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: dsc

Well I for one have not changed, but it could well be for some. But either way that is a positive. I will probably go back to listening to them when this is all over. Right now though I just do not need to listen to their histrionics.


129 posted on 05/16/2016 8:40:14 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Mechanicos

“$427,000 to buy copies of radio talk show host Mark Levin’s four-year-old book “Liberty or Tyranny” to distribute to donors – a purchase that should have earned Levin approximately $1 million in royalties.”

How can a royalty be more than twice gross income?


130 posted on 05/16/2016 8:46:44 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Rockitz

Mr. Levin needs to adjust his thinking to the new paradigm of a post-Constitutional United States.

Our current situation is but a symptom of a greater problem.

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” - John Adams October 11, 1798


131 posted on 05/16/2016 9:39:08 AM PDT by Amish with an attitude
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To: RedWulf
WW2 the war we won by have 10 times the industry of anyone else built up in 120 years of protectionism. All gone in just 40 years of full free trade.

 photo d0c9f9d0-6fad-4ee4-9058-7958317869a9_zps9zcplwee.jpg

Except for the fact that we manufacture more today than at any other time in our history, I'm sure you're right and we don't make nuttin here no mo.

From WW2 to the 70s our government used protectionism to make sure the US didn't run a trade imbalance.

Nonsense. We run a current account deficit because we're a rich country. Our current account deficit increases the most when our economy is growing the fastest. If what you said had any credibility whatsoever, the chart I posted previously would look very different. It's impossible to plead doom when our economic growth has been increasing like that.

I've read plenty of economic text books and most are 90% lies.

LOL. Adam Smith was such an ignorant traitor!

Studying the actual process of how nations rise and fall serves me much better than reading lies and false predictions

If you had actually done the reading you claim to have done, you'd know that an economy built on protectionist policies suffers, as do their people. You'd also know that further empowering government control of the economy never ends well. Japan runs a huge trade surplus and employs an endless array of protectionist policies. For the past 25 years, however, they've been mired in a no growth/deflationary spiral. How is that possible? Yeah, let's be like them.

If you want to learn the truth go read the amazing rise of so many nations in recent years and their heavily protectionist policies.

It's just the opposite but that doesn't surprise me given your knowledge of the subject. You conveniently neglect to mention that government policy on taxes, regulation, unions and litigation has a much greater influence over economic growth than trade. But your myopia has you convinced freedom is the problem. Why you want to argue against freedom on a forum dedicated to freedom is a mystery.

132 posted on 05/16/2016 11:10:38 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: mikhailovich

Good point. That’s not by accident. They think trade caused the problems they identify, not the unions that killed rust belt industries by not allowing them to compete, or the never ending regulations and taxes imposed by their beloved big government.


133 posted on 05/16/2016 11:13:23 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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