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TWA 800: Jim Kallstrom’s Road to Redemption
American Thinker ^ | June 20, 2016 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 06/20/2016 11:33:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

I finally read the entire article.

It sounds like Cashill is playing “good cop” to try and get Kallstrom to roll over.

Kallstrom knows too much, and he KNOWS he knows too much. There’s no getting out of it, no confession, he is all in.

It’s not a bad cop that Cashill is using as a threat against Kallstrom. It’s the equivalent of a Mafia don from the 1950s-60s, and you don’t cross them.


41 posted on 06/20/2016 12:54:01 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: al baby

Did you mean “immolate”? Far more sincere, don’t you think?


42 posted on 06/20/2016 12:55:54 PM PDT by beelzepug (For English press #1; for Spanish, learn English and press #1)
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To: WENDLE

A Tomahawk is a cruise missile and has nothing to do with this. A Navy missile would be a Sea Sparrow or a Standard Missile.

A stinger maxes about 10k feet and can do so laterally at about 5 miles. This is loony tunes that someone in a speed boat, shot one straight up like a moon rocket, and had it act like a radar missile instead of an IR tracker, and then they got away in the speedboat.

All the witnesses saw was the flaming body, missing it’s cockpit, streaking upwards until it stalled. They erroneously concluded it had to be a missile. This is no different than the contrail off of LAX a year or so ago that everyone was convinced was a Chinese sub shooting a nuclear missile out into the pacific.

Lunacy spreads fast.


43 posted on 06/20/2016 12:57:14 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Moonman62

The NTSB put out the official report with some of the FBI and CIA findings included.

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That’s pretty interesting, in and of itself. That’s a lot of government resources devoted to look at what turned out to be such an obvious mechanical failure.


44 posted on 06/20/2016 12:58:35 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: batterycommander

“There was a rumor that it was a US sub that shot down the TWA 800. “

And what US subs carry anti-air missiles?


45 posted on 06/20/2016 12:59:15 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: DesertRhino

All the witnesses saw was the flaming body, missing it’s cockpit, streaking upwards until it stalled. They erroneously concluded it had to be a missile.

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No.

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This is no different than the contrail off of LAX a year or so ago that everyone was convinced was a Chinese sub shooting a nuclear missile out into the pacific.
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Never heard of that one. Must have been a Twitter thing.


46 posted on 06/20/2016 1:01:29 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
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To: Moonman62

True, legally it was in parallel, but the FBI was clearly on the “this is terrorism” mode. They were in the drivers seat. But they were just as wrong about 800 being anything but an accident as they were about Richard Jewell.


47 posted on 06/20/2016 1:03:44 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: angryoldfatman

Yes.

And it was everywhere and widely discussed. Including right here sport.


48 posted on 06/20/2016 1:04:50 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: angryoldfatman

That’s pretty interesting, in and of itself. That’s a lot of government resources devoted to look at what turned out to be such an obvious mechanical failure.

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I read most of the NTSB report and they looked at every possibility and conducted extensive testing and research. They never treated it as an obvious mechanical failure.


49 posted on 06/20/2016 1:05:41 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: angryoldfatman

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2625609/posts

Just for you. Everyone in LA, THOUSANDS were convinced they saw an ICBM. It was a regular old boring contrail.


50 posted on 06/20/2016 1:08:05 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: DesertRhino

Er, The Soviet Kilo class submarine had anti aircraft missiles since 1982.


51 posted on 06/20/2016 1:10:31 PM PDT by batterycommander (Surrounded? Relax and call for artillery.)
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To: Moonman62

True, and the nitrogen inerting system came out of this investigation, and several wiring changes. It isn’t as sexy, but it was an accident.


52 posted on 06/20/2016 1:10:46 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: marron

If there was any justice, all the people involved lying about Flt. 800, or who had anything to do with the “friends of Bill” who came to untimely accidents, would be sitting on death row or would have already been dispatched.

We have been taken over by the political Mafia. No one is safe anymore.


53 posted on 06/20/2016 1:12:53 PM PDT by beelzepug (For English press #1; for Spanish, learn English and press #1)
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To: batterycommander

I believe the Ruskies wanted to embarrass the USN anti sub forces.


54 posted on 06/20/2016 1:12:59 PM PDT by batterycommander (Surrounded? Relax and call for artillery.)
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To: batterycommander

Er...So in 96, a soviet Kilo class sub, shot a missile at a civilian 747 off Long Island. You said USN sub, but lets just go with your theory. Im fascinated now.

Any chance the sub sailed from a Nazi base in Antarctica?


55 posted on 06/20/2016 1:13:26 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: DesertRhino
I want someone to explain to me how a USN missile was fired from a ship, and the crew didn’t know, or kept it secret. Fantasy crap like this is why people think conservatism is stupid.

Well you're not the only one with great understanding of how the military works to have absolutely zero faith in any of its members to follow orders to keep their mouths shut. Seems the more people "know," the less they think duty, honor and country can survive a few beers.

But I will say this - IF the US Navy didn't actually fire that missile, then they damn sure know who did. Because they had all sorts of assets in the area where it was fired from, conducting Aegis combat coordination drills no less. So if twenty ships and several billion dollars in combat technology can't track or stop a couple of rag heads from firing a SAM from a fishing boat, then we should just shut down the Navy altogether and call it a day.

56 posted on 06/20/2016 1:15:56 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: DesertRhino

688 Los Angeles class sub has Sea Sparrow missiles


57 posted on 06/20/2016 1:17:34 PM PDT by batterycommander (Surrounded? Relax and call for artillery.)
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To: batterycommander
688 Los Angeles class sub has Sea Sparrow missiles

No they don't. Torpedoes, Tomahawks, and Harpoons were all they ever carried.

58 posted on 06/20/2016 1:19:37 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: DesertRhino

Sounds like you know your missiles DR, (I know squat about them), so here is a question: Could one of these stinger missiles be fired off from inside a small plane, (flying up at an altitude that would have brought TWA 800 in range of the stinger’s distance limits), out of one of it’s side doors or windows, (with the stinger’s ‘exhaust’ vented out the opposite side window or door)? Could a stinger be ‘fixed’ to one of the plane’s wings and been fired of from inside the plane’s cabin? What do you think?


59 posted on 06/20/2016 1:20:13 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: Talisker

There wasn’t a missile. Everyone on that ship would have know the instant one fired. They are actually quite an event.

And the ship would have tracked the missile and known immediately. They would have been the heroes of the day. But again, they all stay silent. But we all know sailors never talk. That’s why there aren’t words like scuttlebutt, or sea-stories.

But just for fun, flesh it out for me. What specific US Navy ship or ships do you say were either the missile firers or the ones who tracked it and covered it up? I’d like names.


60 posted on 06/20/2016 1:20:16 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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