TWA 800: Jim Kallstrom’s Road to Redemption

American Thinker ^ | June 20, 2016 | Jack Cashill

[Moonman62]

Yep. The TWA800 aircraft was 25 years old. If it hadn’t been that aircraft it would have been another. The NTSB found from the investigation that the fuel tanks weren’t as safe as assumed especially after years of service. The safety changes that were made saved lives.

[DesertRhino]

No, Los Angeles class does not carry Sea Sparrows. Have a nice afternoon, you are just making things up now.

[Talisker]

But just for fun, flesh it out for me. What specific US Navy ship or ships do you say were either the missile firers or the ones who tracked it and covered it up? I’d like names.

So would I. But see, the difference between us is that you threw out 150 names of eye witnesses who saw a light rise from the ocean. Instead, you replaced it with the light of the burning 747 starting from 13,000 feet and going higher. So since my logic doesn't ignore a 13,000 foot rise of a light, and yours does, there's nothing I can say that will satisfy your fantasy.

[Lower Deck]

The Soviet Kilo class submarine had anti aircraft missiles since 1982.

Of a sort. Some were fitted with launchers for a navalized version of either the SA-8 or the SA-10. The were mounted on top of the snorkel mast and the sub had to be on the surface to fire them. Not very practical.

[Lower Deck]

Because they had all sorts of assets in the area where it was fired from, conducting Aegis combat coordination drills no less. So if twenty ships and several billion dollars in combat technology can't track or stop a couple of rag heads from firing a SAM from a fishing boat, then we should just shut down the Navy altogether and call it a day.

Which 20 ships were they?

[DesertRhino]

I think this is crazy land. Yes, a stinger could be wing mounted. No, never fired from in the cabin of a GA plane. (excepting suicide of course)

And still, where is the terror group that claimed this? This missile thing degenerates into batguano theories so fast. By the way, where is the missile frag damage on the recovered airframe?

[DesertRhino]

Dream on. The bottom line is it was not a shot doable by a stinger at that time, and the navy didn’t do it. The witnesses were inaccurate.

I can also provide witnesses for contrail spraying, the Amityville horror, ghosts, flying saucers from space (alone and in formation) a Chicom sub-launched ICBM right off Los Angeles port, and the Miracle of Lourdes.
People “see” a lot of things.

[DesertRhino]

And for extra fun. why did the heat seeker hit the fuselage center and separate the forward section, and NOT one of the 4 -enormous- heat sources out on the wings?

I know, it was a super secret variant of the stinger....

[Fungi]

It concluded that the jet, without a front nose cone, actually continued to fly and increased in altitude. Pure hogwash, all intended to cover up the truth.

[pghbjugop]

Subs do not shoot down planes, doing so would negate the whole purpose of the subs existence. Jim Quinn and others lost all credibility with that “theory” when it came out furthering suppressing the truth by making those of us who know better look like total idiots. Think about it.

[Talisker]

Which 20 ships were they?

They were headed to a military exercise area designated W-105. Look it up, it's old news. As to the exact names of the ships and subs in that classified operation, I'll get back to you on that perfectly reasonable question that anyone in the Navy would know would be instantly available on the internet, just as soon as the SECNAV emails me the info to my bathroom closet server.

[Lower Deck]

They were headed to a military exercise area designated W-105. Look it up, it's old news.

Then you wouldn't have a problem pointing me to it.

[bobby.223]

Hey I was not arguing for the missile theory. I was just asking if my idea could work IF a terrorist was so inclined to attempt it. I have no idea what happened to TWA 800.

[Talisker]

And for extra fun. why did the heat seeker hit the fuselage center and separate the forward section, and NOT one of the 4 -enormous- heat sources out on the wings? I know, it was a super secret variant of the stinger....

Obviously because it was radar guided to the center of mass (thus enabling the center fuel tank cover story, where that wouldn't be possible with a heat seeking engine hit). But you made a good point - the missile wasn't a heat seeker, so that gives info on what it could be - and what was needed to launch it. Thanks.

[Talisker]

Then you wouldn't have a problem pointing me to it.

No, I wouldn't, if I gave a damn what you thought.

But I don't.

[WENDLE]

we got a government lie again. So many. We could list them for ever.

[Talisker]

The witnesses were inaccurate.

I can also provide witnesses for contrail spraying, the Amityville horror, ghosts, flying saucers from space (alone and in formation) a Chicom sub-launched ICBM right off Los Angeles port, and the Miracle of Lourdes. People “see” a lot of things.

Well with logic like that, what's left to say, except we could save a helluva lot of money by getting rid of the FBI and just asking you what the truth is.

[OldNewYork]

Weren’t the Clinton years great?

[alstewartfan]

This guy helped lead the cover-up of TWA 800, even duping Rush. I can never forgive him.

[Forgotten Amendments]

There were arguments that how could an entire ship keep their mouths shut.

It happens. How many thousands knew what Snowden knew & more? Surely, many agreed with him. Yet none came forward.