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World’s Biggest Pension Fund Loses $51 Billion in Stock Rout
Bloomberg ^ | July 30 2016 | Yuko Takeo and Shigeki Nozawa

Posted on 07/30/2016 6:26:17 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister

Japan’s $1.3 trillion Government Pension Investment Fund lost 3.8 percent in the year ended March 31, or 5.3 trillion yen ($51 billion), the retirement manager said Friday in Tokyo. That’s the biggest drop since the fiscal year ended March 31, 2009. GPIF lost 10.8 percent on domestic equities and 9.6 percent on shares in other markets, while Japanese bonds handed the fund a 4.1 percent gain.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Japan
KEYWORDS: bonds; fund; government; investment; japan; japaneconomy; pension; pensionfund; retirement; stock; stockexchange; tokyo

1 posted on 07/30/2016 6:26:17 AM PDT by CorporateStepsister
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To: CorporateStepsister

At least their funds are invested and have a good chance of recovery, unlike our Ponzi scheme, Social Security.


2 posted on 07/30/2016 6:29:10 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: DeFault User
For those who may be too young to have heard about 'Ponzi' ...

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3 posted on 07/30/2016 6:33:16 AM PDT by mkjessup ('President Hillary Clinton' - did you just throw up in your mouth? Vote TRUMP to save America!)
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To: CorporateStepsister

If history repeats, there will be a run on ginsu knives by the fund Managers anytime now.


4 posted on 07/30/2016 6:33:46 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: CorporateStepsister
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The requested 401K pension fund was not found on this server. Contact the Federal Reserve and Wall Street if this problem persists.

5 posted on 07/30/2016 6:48:17 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: DeFault User

RE: “At least their funds are invested and have a good chance of recovery, unlike our Ponzi scheme, Social Security.”

Stop such false dark talk, Trump support’in subject!
Are you inferring the US social security system is a Ponzi scheme - whadya talk’in about?
The economy has never been better!
Obola, Hitlery, Wall Street and the media told us that.

US soc sec is in fine shape and faces no threat.
Don’t worry:
1. We still have nearly three people working for every beneficary, and that ratio will only get better as we bring in Millions more illegal immigrants and refugees.
2. The Fed can always print yet ‘mo money via upcoming QE4.
3. Washington can raise taxes.
4. And, the gov’t can continue cutting the value of soc sec payments by ignoring the true cost of living / rate of inflation!

The Obola economy’s green shoots continue to grow!

/S


6 posted on 07/30/2016 6:51:38 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: CorporateStepsister

How managed the fund, Hillary’s son-in-law?


7 posted on 07/30/2016 7:02:34 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
How managed the fund, Hillary’s son-in-law?

No - this Fund only lost 3.8%. Hillary's son-in-law would scoff at such a piddling number. His Fund lost 90%.

8 posted on 07/30/2016 7:09:34 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: CorporateStepsister

How could Japanese bonds return 4%, when they have negative interest rates?


9 posted on 07/30/2016 7:47:47 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: mkjessup

Several years ago AARP magazine had an article on how a Ponzi scheme works. Their contention Ponzi schemes always fail, as people soon see the fraud. Social Security has not failed so SS is not a Ponzi scheme.

Several pages later in that same magazine issue, was an article by Jame Bryant Quinn on how Social Security is financed, and it was just like a Ponzi scheme, by FORCING people into it.

Why the Ponzi-Social Security scheme has not failed (yet).

If the GOVERNEMENT had FORCED people into his scheme it would not fail, but you would still need massive increases in the number of working population to keep it going. (Soon to be in the BILLIONS!)

So the sudden demand for foreign immigration into the USA as people have aborted so many future workers.

Right now there are 65 million people on ssi, requiring 260 million people working.
When those 260,000,000 retire it will require 4 workers to support each one. That is over ONE BILLION workers.


10 posted on 07/30/2016 8:08:58 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; WildHighlander57; Conservative Gato; Psalm 144; onyx; Jane Long; PA Engineer; ...
A most informative post, thanks for that.

Yup, Social Security sure sounds like a scam to me. Reminds me of the story of the infamous 'Cat Ranch Con Game', in Lacon (how appropriate) Illinois back in 1875:

'GLORIOUS OPPORTUNITY TO GET RICH'

"We are starting a cat ranch in Lacon with 100,000 cats. Each cat will average 12 kittens a year. The cat skins will sell for 30 cents each. One hundred men can skin 5000 cats a day. We expect a daily net profit of over $10,000. Now what shall we feed the cats? We intend to start a RAT ranch right next door with 1,000,000 rats. The rats will breed 12 times faster than the cats, so we will have four rats for every cat each day to eat. One would ask and logically so, "but what will we feed the rats?" We will feed the rats the carcasses of the cats after they have been skinned. Now get this!! We feed the rats to the cats and the cats to the rats, and get the cat skins for NOTHING!"
11 posted on 07/30/2016 9:53:20 AM PDT by mkjessup ('President Hillary Clinton' - did you just throw up in your mouth? Vote TRUMP to save America!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
When those 260,000,000 retire it will require 4 workers to support each one.

Or 1.3 robots that don't sleep, preferable to the stinky kind of slave labor.

12 posted on 07/30/2016 10:11:02 AM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: mkjessup

Reminds me of many of the Ponzi scams going around here fifty years ago.

Soap pyramid schemes
Tool schemes
Nutria schemes
“Airplane” schemes
Worm farm schemes.
And many people bought into them! All collapsed.
Did I mention Emu and pot bellied pigs?


13 posted on 07/30/2016 10:55:37 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: VanShuyten
Basically the value of existing bonds goes up, sending the yield lower.

Let's say there was a 1 year bond worth 1010 bucks and will pay $1000 to you in one year. That bond is effectively a -1% yield to maturity. Let's say 3 months into that one year bond, interest rates on new debt are now -5%. That first bond is now worth $1050 bucks on the open market. If you sold, you'd make ~4% even though you bought a bond that had a negative yield already.

14 posted on 07/31/2016 9:09:33 AM PDT by rb22982
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